Psychopaths

[MicrosoftBob]

21

[OwlHoot]

21

Softie - You'd believe any fib I told!

[Halo Jones]

11

Normal & well balanced me

[alluvial]

13, pretty normal here or a good liar

[mudskipper]

12. Largely down to my misspent yoof.

[Pogle]

21

[doodab]

17

And I thought I was pretty naughty when I was young, although I do have a conscience.

[Zero Liability]

See also

Narcissistic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The term 'psychopath' is rarely used anymore, they talk instead of 'Cluster B' personalities, generally superficially charming, charismatic, often gifted and successful, but lacking any empathy or conscience.

If I sound bitter, it is because I am bitter.

I always thought narcissists hate being challenged, more than anything else. Usually due to growing up in an environment where negotiation isn't/wasn't encouraged, and where there is little tolerance for error, to the point that they become egocentric.

Whereas psychopaths/sociopaths are born (or at least possess the right set of traits in the right environment to be) devoid of empathy, with a particular subtype possessing the traits you mentioned, to the point where words that usually incite emotional reactions in most people, such as 'mother', do nothing of the sort for them. The link, on the other hand, seems to imply that these categorisations would be subsumed under narcissism. Guess I was wrong, or that the terms are used differently depending on the theory in question.

As for the test, 13.

[pjclarke]

Well, I'm way out of my comfort zone here, however Freud linked narcissism in adult life, which does indeed include 'narcisstic rage' when confronted with evidence that they are not in fact super-human, successful or attractive, low levels of empathy and conscience, need for stimulation, and other overlap traits with 'psychopathy', with interrupted emotional development during childhood (narcissists are generally emotionally immature), often associated with either neglectful or over-indulgent parents or a traumatic early life. Whereas the wiki article on psychos has

A study by Farrington of a sample of London males followed between age 8 and 48 included studying which factors scored 10 or more on the PCL:SV at age 48. The strongest factors included having a convicted parent, being physically neglected, low involvement of the father with the boy, low family income, and coming from a disrupted family. Other significant factors included poor supervision, harsh discipline, large family size, delinquent sibling, young mother, depressed mother, low social class, and poor housing.[15] There has also been association between psychopaths and detrimental treatment by peers

Which is why the psychiatric profession tends to talk in terms of personality disorder 'clusters' rather than black and white diagnoses. Either way, they are untreatable and they are mean. Steer clear.

[zeitghost]

they are untreatable and they are mean. Steer clear.

The sociopath in human remains that I had trouble with last year didn't realise what I am.

Otherwise he'd have shat himself.