More Farage wisdom

[sasguru]

Yeah, I remember that post and I also remember wondering how someone who professes to be the Cretin Hunter General could post such a stupid conclusion.

Perhaps you can find the post and see if it makes the conclusion that Xog thinks it makes

[sasguru]

No response. I suppose your perusal of said posts has established where your failure of logic lies?

[alluvial]

Perhaps you can find the post and see if it makes the conclusion that Xog thinks it makes

Bit difficult seeing as it has mysteriously disappeared.

However, you were quoted:

Quote Originally Posted by sasguru View Post
My original post was about London.

I believe immigrants in London must make a net contribution since (1) they are in the majority and (2) London is so successful.

I can't speak of immigrants in other parts of the country but I would be surprised if they were more lazy than their British counterparts.
And it would be very surprising if they were so extraordinarily lazy that they dragged the figures down so much.

It's far more likely that MigrationWatch, having an axe to grind, have made up some spurious figures, especially as other studies, from more respectable institutions, show the opposite.

And yes, you conclusion about net contribution did smack of kindergarten logic.

[sasguru]

Bit difficult seeing as it has mysteriously disappeared.

However, you were quoted:



And yes, you conclusion about net contribution did smack of kindergarten logic.

I haven't deleted anything.
Can you explain how it "smacks of kindergarten logic"?

In that thread I recall saying:

If London immigrants don't make a net contribution on average (as claimed by MW) and they constitute > 50% of the population in London (accepted fact) then they are being "carried" by the < 50% of the indigenous population in London who must be super-productive since not only are the carrying these immigrants but most of the country (since London is economically the most successful and a net contributor) .
Or MW figures are wrong and at least in London , immigrants make a net contribution on average, which is why London is so successful.

And having read the MW document in some depth, I came to the latter conclusion as being more likely.

Pray tell what your conclusions are, and why you think mine are "kindergarten level"?

[KentPhilip]

Good post.
I think you may be right about Eastern European migrants to the Uk being more skewed to the lower skilled spectrum.
Ignoring previous immigration (those who are now 2nd and 3rd generation), the largest wave is mainly from Eastern Europe.
Those from India are usually on ICT or students who have stayed - and thus very likely to be degree-educated (even if those degrees are crap).
It is a fact that it is virtually impossible for an uneducated Indian with no links to the UK to enter whereas for your poorly educated Pole or Romanian you just have to catch a bus.

Thanks
It is not immigration per se that UKIP are opposed to, it is immigration where we cannot pick and choose the people individually that is wrong.
It is certainly the case that in both Romania and Bulgaria there are some people who are brilliant and will be a huge asset to the country financially and culturally. We are happy to have them in, but the problem with the EU is that we are compelled to have in everyone else who may not be as attractive a proposition.

[sasguru]

Pray tell what your conclusions are, and why you think mine are "kindergarten level"?

Waiting ....

[Flashman]

I'm not sure if Sasguru/Darmstadt are quite intelligent, if slighty over excited, 14 years olds.

Or sad unemployed 40 year olds with copy and paste opinions gleaned from reading yesterdays Independent.

Please post and let us know if you've actually met either?

[sasguru]

I'm not sure if Sasguru/Darmstadt are quite intelligent, if slighty over excited, 14 years olds.

Or sad unemployed 40 year olds with copy and paste opinions gleaned from reading yesterdays Independent.

Please post and let us know if you've actually met either?

Ad hominem attacks due to a complete lack of logical argument?
You don't seem very bright to me.
Argue the point or fook orf.

HTH, BIDI.

[alluvial]

Waiting ....

So you assume that as you sit about on your arse all day doing fook all that everyone else does the same?

[sasguru]

So you assume that as you sit about on your arse all day doing fook all that everyone else does the same?

After a bumper year last year, I'm taking some time off.
Have you got anything useful to say about what we are discussing or is it all
Although given your logical skills I'm very sure you have to work all year for a relative pittance.