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    #21
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    Move to a proper postcode for better service.
    Thanks for your suggestion, but a proper country may be better advice. TBH I actually like this country, lots going for it.

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      #22
      Originally posted by tarbera View Post
      Why not just get a new non dumbo eared wife?
      Originally posted by woohoo View Post
      Found it hard enough getting this one and in all respects apart from her ear she is bloody brilliant. She is a 5ft blonde full of evil menace.
      At the very least you should quit using the ears as grab handles during BJ's
      How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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        #23
        Originally posted by Troll View Post
        At the very least you should quit using the ears as grab handles during BJ's
        Why should I? It's not my ears that are hurting

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          #24
          Originally posted by woohoo View Post
          Took them two weeks to speak to us, anyway the letter we received today didn't addresses any of the complaints and I can't see how they can improve their service if they don't acknowledge the problems.
          It's surprised me with my recent NHS experiences that there isn't any follow up. I do a council run french evening class, and with this being the council they constantly get us to fill out forms to rate them, the teacher, and most of all whether you feel like your sexual orientation and/or disability issues are treated with respect. But with the NHS they never ask if you're satisfied that having waited 3 months to see a specialist, you then have to wait another 3 months for the test/scan they ordered, and another 3 months to see the specialist again to find out if you're going to live. Everybody just accepts the crapness and mindless inefficiency of it all.
          Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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            #25
            Originally posted by psychocandy View Post
            That's just the problem. NHS is crap, no-one cares and you're frowned on if you complain because its the "good old nhs".
            I don't think it's crap, it's just imperfect.

            Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
            Move to a proper postcode for better service.
            You think having a malformed postcode is the problem?
            Originally posted by MaryPoppins
            I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
            Originally posted by vetran
            Urine is quite nourishing

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              #26
              Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
              Everybody just accepts the crapness and mindless inefficiency of it all.
              While I agree that it's crap I can't agree that it's "mindlessly inefficient". In fact it's because it's efficient that it's crap for the end user.

              Being able to see people the next day or next week would require an excess of capacity in the system to keep appointments free. That excess capacity has been systematically eliminated to lower costs and improve "efficiency". So the "crapness" of the service is largely a result of mindless efficiency drives applied
              without thought for the consequences.

              I do think there is scope for improvement with computerisation of the whole process, at the moment a lot of stuff is in the dark ages when going from GP to hospital or between hospitals or trusts, but in general it seems "efficiency" is a euphemism for freeze the budget and let the chips fall where they may. There seems to be little scope or appetite for actual investment in innovation to improve the process.
              While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                #27
                Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                I don't think it's crap, it's just imperfect.

                You think having a malformed postcode is the problem?
                Back in the day when I roamed these lands I certainly experienced a varying degree of quality.
                "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by doodab View Post
                  While I agree that it's crap I can't agree that it's "mindlessly inefficient". In fact it's because it's efficient that it's crap for the end user.

                  Being able to see people the next day or next week would require an excess of capacity in the system to keep appointments free. That excess capacity has been systematically eliminated to lower costs and improve "efficiency". So the "crapness" of the service is largely a result of mindless efficiency drives applied
                  without thought for the consequences.

                  I do think there is scope for improvement with computerisation of the whole process, at the moment a lot of stuff is in the dark ages when going from GP to hospital or between hospitals or trusts, but in general it seems "efficiency" is a euphemism for freeze the budget and let the chips fall where they may. There seems to be little scope or appetite for actual investment in innovation to improve the process.
                  Talk to a joiner about a problem and it can be fixed with a hammer. Talk to the IT man, more computers are the answer.

                  If scooter were in charge he'd sack all the bureaucrats / managers and use that money to spend on much need equipment / facilities instead.
                  "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by doodab View Post
                    While I agree that it's crap I can't agree that it's "mindlessly inefficient". In fact it's because it's efficient that it's crap for the end user.

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                    It's inefficient if the goal is to keep people healthy.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                      If scooter were in charge he'd sack all the bureaucrats / managers and use that money to spend on much need equipment / facilities instead.
                      You have no idea how it actually works though.

                      Equipment is useless without people to use it, so you need to look at the nurse / patient and doctor / patient ratio. You also need to look at the handover between organisations (because there are a LOT of them involved, the NHS isn't monolithic) and it's almost entirely based on writing letters. For a GP to book an appointment for a scan or to see a consultant takes ages because that's how long sending all the letters and faxes takes. In the hospital I was in it usually happens on the same day or day after, or as soon as medically practical, because they have direct access to the booking systems that the GP doesn't.

                      For my GP the only gateway to accelerate the process was to refer me to an "acute admissions unit" which is kind of like an A&E department that takes referrals from GPs and consultants that are considered likely to need admission.
                      Last edited by doodab; 21 March 2014, 16:25.
                      While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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