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    #91
    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
    Does the SNP have the power to keep having referenda? I thought this one came from the UK government?
    They want to have another one in 15 years. I don't think I could go through another, it's like listening to women fighting in the laundrette over who gets on the tumble drier next.

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      #92
      Originally posted by doodab View Post
      It seems clear that they aren't going to get a currency union where they have any sort of say in monetary policy

      What the scots need to be wary of is that public opinion this side of the border is turning against them
      Wife (Salmond): I want a divorce
      Husband (Rest of UK): Why ?
      Wife: Differences
      Husband: Ok if you must, your choice
      Wife: And by the way, I still want to use your bank account. Although I never want to see or speak to you again, If I go silly and lavish cars, houses, holidays, pensions, tuition fees, winter fuel payments etc. on my new boyfriend and go bankrupt, I want you to pick up the tab and bail me out. Ok sweetheart ?
      Husband. F***********k off B**tch

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        #93
        Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post

        The worst result for everyone would be a No vote
        I agree. A really strong no vote because people paid any attention of this negative campaigning would be

        A Tory politician that nobody in Scotland voted for comes up to Edinburgh and dictate terms will most likely have the outcome he intended all along.
        "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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          #94
          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          I agree. A really strong no vote because people paid any attention of this negative campaigning would be

          A Tory politician that nobody in Scotland voted for comes up to Edinburgh and dictate terms will most likely have the outcome he intended all along.
          Whereas a politician from a whole party that got zero votes in the rest of the UK should get his way instead?

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            #95
            Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
            A Tory politician that nobody in Scotland voted for comes up to Edinburgh and dictate terms will most likely have the outcome he intended all along.
            As part of the union you get to have a say in what's in the national interest. If you leave, you don't. No politician of any stripe is going to let you do a smash and grab that ****s the rest of the UK over in the process. So you need to negotiate and get the best that you can.

            Surely you didn't think you were going to make a list of things that you wanted and Westminster would just nod and sign the cheque?

            It really is astonishing how naive some people are.
            While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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              #96
              Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
              I agree. A really strong no vote because people paid any attention of this negative campaigning would be
              This seems to be a common attitude amongst some who argue for independence - that the worst possible outcome would be that the will of majority wins.
              Surely a strong response (in either direction) is the best possible outcome, because at least the majority of people are in agreement, rather than there being two fairly equally sized groups getting acrimonious and there being huge numbers of people unhappy (either way).

              Just because you don't agree with a position decided on in a democratic manner, that does not mean that you should not accept it and can declare it illegitimate.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Ticktock View Post
                This seems to be a common attitude amongst some who argue for independence - that the worst possible outcome would be that the will of majority wins.
                Surely a strong response (in either direction) is the best possible outcome, because at least the majority of people are in agreement, rather than there being two fairly equally sized groups getting acrimonious and there being huge numbers of people unhappy (either way).

                Just because you don't agree with a position decided on in a democratic manner, that does not mean that you should not accept it and can declare it illegitimate.
                I assume they will ask for a straight majority, but aren't there precidents for setting the bar higher, say 60%?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by doodab View Post
                  As part of the union you get to have a say in what's in the national interest. If you leave, you don't. No politician of any stripe is going to let you do a smash and grab that ****s the rest of the UK over in the process. So you need to negotiate and get the best that you can.

                  Surely you didn't think you were going to make a list of things that you wanted and Westminster would just nod and sign the cheque?

                  It really is astonishing how naive some people are.
                  To be fair Westminster is pretty corrupt, perhaps there is the hope of enough backhanders to do just that.
                  Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

                  No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                    #99
                    Alex Salmond is sent a Valentine...



                    No currency, no country.

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                      Originally posted by doodab View Post
                      As part of the union you get to have a say in what's in the national interest.
                      Not true.

                      All people Scotland know, is the national interest means London. I know many people in the north of England feel the same way. However this is an opportunity for one small part of the UK to hold it's head high and speak up.

                      When they do however threats are made. We all know what happens to bullies.
                      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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