Scotland's new currency

[MicrosoftBob]

Have we not been a union for the past 300 years?

Have we not been using the same currency for the past 300 years?

Is this already not a currency union?

That's not the same as currency union with an independent country

Hence why the EU is trying rule over every policy decision of EU countries, because even they recognise that independent countries wreck currency unions

Which begs another question, if you want independence why do want to join the EU ?

[Ticktock]

Have we not been a union for the past 300 years?

Have we not been using the same currency for the past 300 years?

Is this already not a currency union?

Yes, but you missed "against a background of fiscal and political seperation", which is what would be new.

[scooterscot]

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Which begs another question, if you want independence why do want to join the EU ?[/QUOTE]

Devo max is what's wanted. The government knew that would be popular so they forced the independence route. The situation is of their own making.

The EU is not really an important topic to many voting in the referendum. But the media do enjoy drumming on about it.

[doodab]

Have we not been a union for the past 300 years?

Have we not been using the same currency for the past 300 years?

Is this already not a currency union?

If it works so well why do you want to leave? Oh that's right, you don't like us setting tax rates or deciding how much you can spend. Well, that goes with the currency union i'm afraid.

[MicrosoftBob]

If it works so well why do you want to leave? Oh that's right, you don't like us setting tax rates or deciding how much you can spend. Well, that goes with the currency union i'm afraid.

And the same scenario if they join the EU, no real independence just their future will be decided by different civil servants outside Scotland

[Ticktock]

Devo max is what's wanted. The government knew that would be popular so they forced the independence route. The situation is of their own making.

I forgot that Alex Salmond leads the Scottish Devo Max party, and has been pushing for a referendum on devo max all along.

[MicrosoftBob]

What gets forgotten is that government want Scottish independence more than the SNP do, it's a game of triple bluff

The worst result for everyone would be a No vote

[Ticktock]

What gets forgotten is that government want Scottish independence more than the SNP do, it's a game of triple bluff

The worst result for everyone would be a No vote

Actually, I think the worst for everyone would be a Yes vote with a tiny margin. If that happened you'd have the new Scottish government trying to manage massive change, with a huge proportion of the country saying that they disagreed with it, throwing up hurdles and potentially electing SMPs who block plans.
Much worse than "No" with a tiny margin, as at least nothing changes, and that does give legitimacy to saying "Let's look at it again in 5 years" or whenever.
Either a Yes or No with a large margin not only gives a fairly definitive response, but also it's harder for the losing electorate to moan and cause trouble.

Of course, if the answer was No by a large margin I wouldn't be surprised to see the SNP simply try to ignore it and run repeated referenda until they get the answer they like.

[MicrosoftBob]

Of course, if the answer was No by a large margin I wouldn't be surprised to see the SNP simply try to ignore it and run repeated referenda until they get the answer they like.

To be fair that kind of democracy has worked for the EU, just look at Ireland they kept ignoring No votes and tried increasingly bribing the electorate till they got the answer they wanted. I'm sure the SNP will try the same route

[VectraMan]

To be fair that kind of democracy has worked for the EU, just look at Ireland they kept ignoring No votes and tried increasingly bribing the electorate till they got the answer they wanted. I'm sure the SNP will try the same route

Does the SNP have the power to keep having referenda? I thought this one came from the UK government?

The turnout could be significant too. Those who want change are going to be motivated to vote, so if the Yes campaign wins 51% of the vote, but only 50% turn up, then is that going to lead to the CBA'd crowd demanding another go? Actually I see that being more likely with the EU referendum, which most probably don't care about that much in truth.