Dressing in pink

[northernladyuk]

Genital mutilation is an act of cruelty which would be just as intolerable where it to be carried out on males as it is when it is carried out on females. The practice is an ancient one which has no place in modern society but I think it is an issue which should be taken up by everybody.

By saying that male condemnation of the practice doesn't mean it's not a feminist issue means that you are creating a divide that you are trying to prevent which, in my opinion, is half the problem.

Where is the divide? I am saying that when a critique of oppression of women reaches broad acceptance, that is a good thing. Like with marital rape and the denial of voting rights to women. And rules that used to see women lose their jobs upon marriage. Etc. etc. These are all feminist issues.

As for the don't wear pink brigade. I think there are some useful ideas in there. Some feminists will be too insistent on the idea for my tastes, but overall, having these ideas out there is a good thing. Just ignore the more extreme elements, as an inevitable consequence of a broad progressive movement.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Where is the divide? I am saying that when a critique of oppression of women reaches broad acceptance, that is a good thing. Like with marital rape and the denial of voting rights to women. And rules that used to see women lose their jobs upon marriage. Etc. etc. These are all feminist issues.

As for the don't wear pink brigade. I think there are some useful ideas in there. Some feminists will be too insistent on the idea for my tastes, but overall, having these ideas out there is a good thing. Just ignore the more extreme elements, as an inevitable consequence of a broad progressive movement.

If an issue is taken up as 'feminist' you are, by default, excluding half the population from the start - I am not saying that many of the issues that have been addressed should not have been, I just think that the feminist extremist are doing women any favours

[mudskipper]

If an issue is taken up as 'feminist' you are, by default, excluding half the population from the start - I am not saying that many of the issues that have been addressed should not have been, I just think that the feminist extremist are doing women any favours

Ah, so you hate feminist extremists, not feminists.

(BTW, men can be feminist too)

[suityou01]

Because I think they're detrimental to their own cause - staff quota's based on sex (or race or anything else come to that) ensure that appointments are not made according to ability.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I like you, ye young scamp.

Finally a decent poster.

[suityou01]

True but the feminists of 100 years ago who secured rights for women are very different from the whining 'it's not fair' brigade that we have today

[suityou01]

True.

It was horses for courses in them days, I'll have you know.

And I had a whole groat on the King's 'Orse.

My Grandad had 10 bob on the sufragette. 'Orse won of course.

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

Ah, so you hate feminist extremists, not feminists.

(BTW, men can be feminist too)

How on earth can a man be a feminist

[LisaContractorUmbrella]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I like you, ye young scamp.

Finally a decent poster.

[suityou01]

How on earth can a man be a feminist

I know, I know. The standard of trolls on here Lisa. It's shocking. MS is post op btw.

[mudskipper]

How on earth can a man be a feminist

From Wikipedia

Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women. This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.

So anyone (male or female) who believes that women should have equal rights and opportunities is a feminist.