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So, who IS going to win the next election?

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    #31
    Doggy Styles;1876794]No, the saddest thing of all is that some people believe that nonsense.

    Following the implantation of the Treaty of Lisbon in 2014 EU Parliament will decide the following using Qualified Majority Voting.

    Rules concerning the Armaments Agency Unanimity QMV 28D§2 TEU
    Freedom to establish a business Unanimity QMV 47§2 TFEU
    Self-employment access rights Unanimity QMV 47§2 TFEU
    Freedom, security and justice – cooperation and evaluation Unanimity QMV 70 TFEU
    Border controls Unanimity QMV 77 TFEU
    Asylum Unanimity QMV 78 TFEU
    Immigration Unanimity QMV 79 TFEU
    Crime prevention incentives Unanimity QMV 69c TFEU
    Eurojust Unanimity QMV 69d TFEU
    Police cooperation Unanimity QMV 69f TFEU
    Europol Unanimity QMV 69g TFEU
    Transport Unanimity QMV 71§2 TFEU
    European Central Bank Unanimity QMV 107§3, 245b TFEU
    Culture Unanimity QMV 151 TFEU
    Structural and Cohension Funds Unanimity QMV 161 TFEU
    Organisation of the Council of the European Union Unanimity QMV 201b TFEU
    European Court of Justice Unanimity QMV 245, 224a, 225a TFEU
    Freedom of movement for workers Unanimity QMV 42 TFEU
    Social security Unanimity QMV 42 TFEU
    Criminal judicial cooperation Unanimity QMV 69a TFEU
    Criminal law Unanimity QMV 69b TFEU
    President of the European Council election (New item) QMV 9b§5 TEU
    Foreign Affairs High Representative election (New item) QMV 9e§1 TEU
    Funding the Common Foreign and Security Policy Unanimity QMV 28 TEU
    Common defense policy Unanimity QMV 28e TEU
    Withdrawal of a member state (new item) QMV 49a TEU
    General economic interest services Unanimity QMV 16 TFEU
    Diplomatic and consular protection Unanimity QMV 20 TFEU
    Citizens initiative regulations Unanimity QMV 21 TFEU
    Intellectual property Unanimity QMV 97a TFEU
    Eurozone external representation Unanimity QMV 115c TFEU
    Sport Unanimity QMV 149 TFEU
    Space Unanimity QMV 172a TFEU
    Energy Unanimity QMV 176a TFEU
    Tourism Unanimity QMV 176b TFEU
    Civil protection Unanimity QMV 176c TFEU
    Administrative cooperation Unanimity QMV 176d TFEU
    Emergency international aid Unanimity QMV 188i TFEU
    Humanitarian aid Unanimity QMV 188j TFEU
    Response to natural disasters or terrorism (new item) QMV 188R§3 TFEU
    Economic and Social Committee QMV QMV 256a TFEU
    Committee of the Regions Unanimity QMV 256a TFEU
    Economic and Social Committee Unanimity QMV 256a TFEU
    The EU budget Unanimity QMV 269 TFEU

    Voting in the Council of the European Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    UK Parliament?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Flashman View Post
      The saddest thing of all is how little it means who wins the next General Election.
      Quite how you can make that assertion is beyond me.
      It is only a small matter of one party leaving the country in a state of economic ruin and the other one in a healthy economic state.
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #33
        Originally posted by Flashman View Post
        The Conservatives lost in 2010.
        Who won then?
        Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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          #34
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          Quite how you can make that assertion is beyond me.
          It is only a small matter of one party leaving the country in a state of economic ruin and handing out lots of benefits and public sector jobs and the other one not handing out more benefits or public sector jobs but leaving the country in a healthy economic state.
          ftfy, but it does complicate things a bit for CMD.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #35
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            ftfy, but it does complicate things a bit for CMD.
            You can't have too much context
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #36
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              Who won then?
              The coalition of losers.
              Originally posted by MaryPoppins
              I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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                #37
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                Who won then?
                Not the Snot Goblin. Rejoice.
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                  I also cannot imagine the British public putting up with a Lib/Lab coalition
                  It's nothing to do with what the British public will put up with - if the maths and the will is there, then that's what will happen. If the British public are unhappy about it, then they will have a chance in 2020 to express their opinion.
                  Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                  I hadn't really understood this 'pwned' expression until I read DirtyDog's post.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                    1. UKIP take lots of votes off The Tories. Labour get in. Economy screwed.
                    2. Tories continue to move further right wing to head off the perceived threat of a small but very vocal minority of UKIPists. Voting conservative becomes less palatable to the sensible moderate majority who stay at home. Labour wins. Economy screwed.
                    3. The LibDems, no longer the party that it was safe to vote for because there was no chance they'd get into power, lose a lot of support, mostly to labour. Labour wins. Economy screwed.

                    Probably the best hope is that Ed Milliband does or says something so monumentally stupid that even with the combined help of UKIP and the LibDems, he still fails to win the election.
                    Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
                    • LibDems will lose votes thanks to 'selling out to the Tories', and many of their seats will go to Labour.
                    • UKIP won't win many seats, if any, but they will take a lot of votes from Tories, allowing Labour to win several seats.
                    • SNP are losing credibility for some reason, they'll probably lose seats to Labour.
                    • Most Labour voters are tribal, and wouldn't change their votes to the Tories under any circumstances.
                    • There is too much 'good news' coming out, which for many floating voters means the economy is fixed and it's safe to indulge themselves in Labour largesse again.
                    So it's all looking good for Ed.
                    Yes, that's my analysis too. Labour will win in any scenario unless they really screw up.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DirtyDog View Post
                      It's nothing to do with what the British public will put up with - if the maths and the will is there, then that's what will happen. If the British public are unhappy about it, then they will have a chance in 2020 to express their opinion.
                      Very true.

                      But I can imagine a lot of distaste if the Libs manage to remain in power and the Tories lose.

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