This 'ere Cloud thingy

[Mich the Tester]

Thank god you said that - I am having such a struggle to try to explain to people that 'The Cloud' is not using anything new but merely a rebranding of quite old technologies which have been made more workable with the advent of increased network speeds and availability of more wireless connectivity.

Why bother? Sell them the buzzword if that's what they want to pay for. See if you can throw in a Big Data solution for an extra charge.

[original PM]

One more thing; tell them it supports BYOD!

right up until networks find out you are trying to put your bug ridden porn surfing machine on their shiny network at which point they tell you to feck off!

[original PM]

Why bother? Sell them the buzzword if that's what they want to pay for. See if you can throw in a Big Data solution for an extra charge.

Indeed Big Data, ETL, ERP at al,

licence to print money!

but from this end they are happy to spend £1k per day plus on 'experts' but then when the internal teams try to tell them they are wasting their money and these people are chrlatons the execs get upset

I suppose it will reduce the amount of kick back!

[Mich the Tester]

right up until networks find out you are trying to put your bug ridden porn surfing machine on their shiny network at which point they tell you to feck off!

Good; charge them extra for 'online reputation management'.

[vwdan]

Explain it with the use of a diagram:

[Platypus]

Thank god you said that - I am having such a struggle to try to explain to people that 'The Cloud' is not using anything new but merely a rebranding of quite old technologies which have been made more workable with the advent of increased network speeds and availability of more wireless connectivity.

Well, yes and no.

All the automated provisioning and management stuff "hours not days" blah blah. This is quite a good 2 minute summary
Virtualization vs. cloud: Let's get this straight

[Mich the Tester]

FTFY

Bring Suity's Old Device?

[original PM]

Well, yes and no.

All the automated provisioning and management stuff "hours not days" blah blah. This is quite a good 2 minute summary
Virtualization vs. cloud: Let's get this straight

Now that is interesting cheers PP.

But just one thing

If it's missing any one of these characteristics, simply calling your virtual infrastructure a private cloud does not make it so. If for example, your end-users cannot provision a new virtual machine without the assistance of IT staff, you're missing the automated on-demand service a cloud should offer. If you cannot easily monitor, control and report resource usage, your infrastructure is missing an essential piece of the cloud model.

Most business would not want non IT staff provisioning new VM etc etc.

Which means that it seems great but actually for most businesses an IT team is needed.

Also there is always the concern of data leakage when storing stuff in the cloud.

[Platypus]

Most business would not want non IT staff provisioning new VM etc etc.

Which means that it seems great but actually for most businesses an IT team is needed.

I happen to agree. Just because end users can't willy nilly cause chaos by provisioning loads of VMs then forgetting about them and provisioning more doesn't make it not a cloud.

[Mich the Tester]

I happen to agree. Just because end users can't willy nilly cause chaos by provisioning loads of VMs then forgetting about them and provisioning more doesn't make it not a cloud.

Why would end users need to provision a VM?

Unless end users are IT staff of course.