Sergeant Alexander Blackman, Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale

[BrilloPad]

Why the hell are we involved in this war anyway?

Its an arab issue - let the Arabs sort it out.

If we need world police, can we have China instead of the West please? They have the money.

I see a new film "Team China : World Police". China fffuuuccckkk yyyeeeaaahhhhh etcetc.

[gingerjedi]

Not actually condemned by all sides. The BNP is predictably square behind Sgt Blackman. I didn't know that in advance - just guessed and googled.

Linky prob NSFW Appeal to the Queen Elizabeth II for 'Marine A' | National News | British National Party

I don't consider the BNP as a 'side', they didn't get a prime time slot on R4 to put their bulltulip point across.

What irks me is the guy they had on R4 this morning was born in the UK and is happy to take advantage of all the privileges a UK citizen has i.e speaking his mind on public radio without fear of arrest (something Jon Pointed out he would be able to do in any Muslim state), yet he said he didn't recognise the UK government or any sort of democracy.

I hate to say it but... why are you here exactly? Other than the obvious.

[MicrosoftBob]

I know we are not in a war with Muslims but does your average right wing nazi know or care?

Nazism was a branch of marxism, right wing nazis are indeed rather misguided

[tomtomagain]

Not saying I agree, but it comes back to "one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter".

You might not agree but you are condoning their actions.

These were not "Freedom" fighters. They were not struggling against repression in the UK or seeking to better the lives of their fellow human beings. Nelson Mandela was a freedom fighter. These two are common criminals.

They espouse a repugnant mis-interpretation of a world religion. Their actions are calculated to try and divide our society. For what reason? So we can all return to the middle-ages? Live in a world where women's rights don't exist? Where you can be stoned to death for your sexuality? So you can pray 5 times a day to a made-up deity?

[VectraMan]

What irks me is the guy they had on R4 this morning was born in the UK and is happy to take advantage of all the privileges a UK citizen has i.e speaking his mind on public radio without fear of arrest (something Jon Pointed out he would be able to do in any Muslim state), yet he said he didn't recognise the UK government or any sort of democracy.

The thing about freedom and democracy is that you aren't required to support freedom and democracy in order to have it. Those that think it's some kind of privilege, or perhaps think that those who speak out against it should be thrown out of the country, clearly don't believe in freedom and democracy either, even though they'd certainly protest that they do.

[VectraMan]

These were not "Freedom" fighters. They were not struggling against repression in the UK or seeking to better the lives of their fellow human beings. Nelson Mandela was a freedom fighter. These two are common criminals.

Why does it have to be in the UK? They were struggling against repression (or probably oppression) in Afghanistan, and were seeking to better the lives of their fellow human beings in Muslim countries. Probably they were misguided, but then it's all a matter of opinion. Fighting for a cause you strongly believe in regardless of what happens to you is exactly what Mandela did.

[tomtomagain]

They were struggling against repression (or probably oppression) in Afghanistan

So you think that the ISAF forces in Afghanistan, working alongside the Afghan national army, are oppressing the people of Afghanistan?

Really?

Compared to the oppression of the population by the previous Taliban regime?

And this somehow sanctions the murder on the streets of our capital city of an unarmed solider by two individuals who have had all benefits and privilege of living in the UK.

By your logic any action is justifiable "If I don't like it".

[VectraMan]

So you think that the ISAF forces in Afghanistan, working alongside the Afghan national army, are oppressing the people of Afghanistan?

No.

Really?

No.

It is possible to consider opinions other than your own you know.

[MicrosoftBob]

Fighting for a cause you strongly believe in regardless of what happens to you is exactly what Mandela did.

Quite, he was rather fond of the IRA after all

[tomtomagain]

It is possible to consider opinions other than your own you know.

I'd rather consider the facts than an opinion based on division, hatred and superstition.