Opt-Out as pre-condition of contract! Wow!

[malvolio]

I told him what you said re that it is illegal and he said that you don't know what you are talking about and that if I report him to the bis, he will report me to the hmrc

Report you for what, exactly? The opt out has nothing to do with taxation.


He's clearly an ignorant bully (and a dickhead - who'd a thought it.. .): ask to talk with his line manager who will be less then impressed with his workers f***ing up his company's reputation.

[suityou01]

Report you for what, exactly? The opt out has nothing to do with taxation.


He's clearly an ignorant bully (and a dickhead - who'd a thought it.. .): ask to talk with his line manager who will be less then impressed with his workers f***ing up his company's reputation.

Whs * 1 gazillion.

What's wrong with being opted out?

[Rudibus ingenious]

Report you for what, exactly? The opt out has nothing to do with taxation.


He's clearly an ignorant bully (and a dickhead - who'd a thought it.. .): ask to talk with his line manager who will be less then impressed with his workers f***ing up his company's reputation.

He won't agree for me to return on site unless I opt out, I told him about this forum and the posts and he said he has read them, but he said you don't know what you are talking about.

I really don't want him to call the hmrc as he seems really confident

[suityou01]

He won't agree for me to return on site unless I opt out, I told him about this forum and the posts and he said he has read them, but he said you don't know what you are talking about.

I really don't want him to call the hmrc as he seems really confident

30 degree wash, with fairy non bio ought to do the trick.

[Rudibus ingenious]

30 degree wash, with fairy non bio ought to do the trick.

I am not sure how that is going to help

[suityou01]

I am not sure how that is going to help

It's how we clean our socks.

[darmstadt]

He won't agree for me to return on site unless I opt out, I told him about this forum and the posts and he said he has read them, but he said you don't know what you are talking about.

I really don't want him to call the hmrc as he seems really confident

So come on then Mr. Agent, lets see you refute everything

[Wanderer]

He won't agree for me to return on site unless I opt out, I told him about this forum and the posts and he said he has read them, but he said you don't know what you are talking about.

A lot of people here don't know what they are talking about, to be fair. Have a read of this opt out post and ask him to read section 32(13) of the Agency Conduct Regulations which states:

(13) Neither an agency nor an employment business may make the provision of work-finding services to a work-seeker which is a company conditional upon the work-seeker, and the person who is or would be supplied by the work-seeker to carry out the work, entering into and giving notice of an agreement as referred to in paragraph (9) (the so called "opt out), to the agency or employment business.

I really don't want him to call the hmrc as he seems really confident

The agent is bluffing!

If you let him screw you over then he will keep doing it to others. Stand up to this bully and bring him down a peg or two. Here's how to do it:

Talk to his boss and say "I have chosen not to opt out of The Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment Businesses Regulations 2003 but Agent X has made it plain to me that this contract is conditional on me opting out. I believe that this is illegal and the agency cannot force me to opt out. Is this correct?"

The agent will come out with a load of spiel about why you should opt out, thank them for this and then state that you do not wish to opt out and then repeat that question above. Keep asking that same question until the give you an answer. If they say they don't know the answer then ask them to escalate it to their company director and tell them you will speak to APSCO/REC (if they are member) and get advice from them.

DON'T let the the bullies win this, they are bang to rights and acting illegally.

[Wanderer]

So come on then Mr. Agent, lets see you refute everything

The agent won't post here because he knows he will get bitchslapped.

[SueEllen]

I told him what you said re that it is illegal and he said that you don't know what you are talking about and that if I report him to the bis, he will report me to the hmrc

Tell him to PLEASE go ahead.

The BIS EAIs' act more quickly than HMRC, and HMRC ignore a lot of the "tip offs" they get.

BTW make sure you write a few emails to the agent outlining his stance and asking him whether you got it wrong. The EAIs like to see this kind of thing.