The future of Perm/Contract roles in the City

[MyUserName]

Well, we already had a lot of essential staff leave to be replaced with cheaper foreign imports who will tolerate 3rd world transport and endless queueing for everything. Once the middle classes go that will leave the rich people, their staff, and the feral underclasses.

I intend to do one before then, for although I was born feral I'd like to think I've become gentrified following my uni education and extensive shagging of posh birds.

Careful, one of those swans can break your arm.

[doodab]

Careful, one of those swans can break your arm.

She's too busy breaking my balls to worry about my arms

[MyUserName]

She's too busy breaking my balls to worry about my arms

Well, just watch out for her wings ... and the police.

[DirtyDog]

Does anybody else outside London view London roles/rates in the same way?

Yes, although it's been three years since I've worked in the south.

First class return train in peak time from Preston to London is round about £400. Hotel / B&B / room costs aren't cheap - I paid £800 a month to rent a room near work last time I was there. And general cost of living expenses - so well over £2500 a month.

But, then price up what you can get near home, assuming that there is work near your home.

I'm prepared to have to do it again if necessary, but I really don't want to be considering London if I could avoid it.

[suityou01]

Is it not obvious that you have to get digs in the green belt and commute in?

[kal]

Birmingham is the place to be:

TECH WAR: Brummies say firms 'lose out' in London's Tech City

I live in Birmingham and currently commute to London. can confirm that there is very little in the way of decent IT contracts in the city (and thats been true for the last few years), its pretty dead and what contracts there are are paying peanuts (£200 a day for a 12 month dev role anyone?), a bit more going on in the surrounding areas but still very slow.

See loads of roles down South with pretty good rates, quite a few jobs up north (Mancs, Leeds) with not so good rate but Midlands is barren...

[expat]

Is it not obvious that you have to get digs in the green belt and commute in?

Weekly commute plus daily commute? Where's the "I'm Out" smiley?

[petergriffin]

Birmingham is the place to be:

TECH WAR: Brummies say firms 'lose out' in London's Tech City

Are in Brum? They call the Colmore district the Wharf of the West Midlands. But frankly, it cannot be compared.

[sasguru]

So what does that mean for London in the future? I know a few of my friends are looking to move to my area due to the kind of figures you are quoting - a graduate doctor friend of mine on 60k with a family is struggling day to day.

60K is rather low for a doctor? A couple of GPs I know are on far more for 3/4 day weeks.
But 60K isn't enough for London, with a family.
He can send his wife out to work or alternatively get social housing (shared ownership and the like)

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

60K is rather low for a doctor? A couple of GPs I know are on far more for 3/4 day weeks.
But 60K isn't enough for London, with a family.
He can send his wife out to work or alternatively get social housing (shared ownership and the like)

Currently training to eventually be a surgeon.... Salary will not be above 100k for quite a few years yet.