Grangemouth factory shuts down as Ineos turns the screw

[amcdonald]

Well you can only blame the government for so much. The unions must talks the majority of the responsibility here. They exist to protect the workers interests and they did the bleeding opposite. How thick can union members be?

Maybe unions did exist for the members in the past

Now it looks like Unions primarily exist to protect union and labour party interests anything else is incidental, much like governments exist to protect the opportunities for directorships and consultancy roles for mps in the governing party

[AtW]

Perhaps all Union members should be covering loss of earnings for those who will be paying for this gamble.

[SueEllen]

Perhaps all Union members should be covering loss of earnings for those who will be paying for this gamble.

Why should union members who don't work for this operation pay to support the ones who work for the operation who cannot make an agreement with their own management?

Ineos is union busting - it commonly happens in the US but not in the UK since Thatcher's union reforms.

[DodgyAgent]

Why should union members who don't work for this operation pay to support the ones who work for the operation who cannot make an agreement with their own management?

Ineos is union busting - it commonly happens in the US but not in the UK since Thatcher's union reforms.

And what is wrong with Union busting?

[AtW]

Why should union members who don't work for this operation pay to support the ones who work for the operation who cannot make an agreement with their own management?

They should pay because they are members of the same union which pushed too far and resulted in losses to its members.

Ineos is union busting - it commonly happens in the US but not in the UK since Thatcher's union reforms.

It's not reasonable to expect Ineos to continue to lose £10 mln per month, Union should have had enough brains to see that holding owner for ransom in a money losing place is totally stupid, if Ineos was making crazy profits then Union would have had a chance.

[kal]

They should pay because they are members of the same union which pushed too far and resulted in losses to its members.



It's not reasonable to expect Ineos to continue to lose £10 mln per month, Union should have had enough brains to see that holding owner for ransom in a money losing place is totally stupid, if Ineos was making crazy profits then Union would have had a chance.

Have to laugh that the employer have told the union to basically ***** off and the reds can't back peddle enough now, do you think there is a danger of a union official losing his manufactured 100k+ a yr position for doing feck all in all of this...feel for the working man not the labour controlled leeches...