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Apple's new strategic direction

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    #31
    Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
    Apples success is down to marketing, not innovation...worst case they've probably got the cash to buy Microsoft by now so they're going nowhere
    Apple's innovation is that they make stuff that normal people want and will pay for. There were plenty of portable digital music players before the iPod, but they were all a pain to use unless you were a geek who likes playing with technology rather than just using it. The iPhone wasn't the first handheld computer, but it was the first one that normal, non-geeky people found so easy to use it didn't even have to ship with a manual. The iPad wasn't the first tablet computer, but let's face it, Microsoft may have "innovated" in that field but their products didn't sell because they were crap and no normal person would want one.

    It's a pretty damning indictment of the tech industry's attitudes over the last thirty years or so that making products that delight ordinary people is seen as innovation. But it is, and Apple does it better than their competitors. That's why Apple has all that money, and outfits like Samsung that sell cheap knock-offs of Apple products are barely scraping a profit in comparison, even with good sales figures.

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      #32
      Originally posted by russell View Post
      Because since Jobs died that's what they have done. Tim Cook has a innovation vacuum field.
      iPod: 2001. iPhone: 2007. iPad: 2010.

      Steve Jobs died two years ago. How frequently do you think they need to produce a groundbreaking new product, given that they got where they are by doing so every three to six years?

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        #33
        Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
        What makes you think all Apple will ever do henceforth is produce new models of iPhone?
        The iWatch will not be first to market, Samsung have got their first

        Apple stopped making decent servers

        Macbooks are fast enough to not need to upgrade for years, same for the newer iPads

        The only real market is iPhones, and they're fast approaching being fast enough to run anything and new features are just gimmicks...as soon as they stop being status symbols (Hello Blackberry this used to be you) sales will flatline

        I don't think trying to sell iOvens and iLightfittings of the back of the iWatch will be enough
        Doing the needful since 1827

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          #34
          Originally posted by amcdonald
          The iWatch will not be first to marker, Samsung have got their first
          There's still never been a shred of evidence that Apple is even planning to make a watch. It'd be pretty funny if Samsung spent all that money making one and Apple turned out - as is often the case - to be moving in a completely different direction.

          Originally posted by amcdonald
          Apple stopped making decent servers
          Being prepared to give up on a market when it's clear there's no long-term business there is sensible. Linux owns the server OS market, and the hardware is commodity stuff, and very often virtual.

          Originally posted by amcdonald
          Macbooks are fast enough to not need to upgrade for years, same for the newer iPads
          Well, they've all got at least 640K, and that should be enough for anybody, right?

          Originally posted by amcdonald
          The only real market is iPhones, and they're fast approaching being fast enough to run anything and new features are just gimmicks...as soon as they stop being status symbols (Hello Blackberry this used to be you) sales will flatline

          I don't think trying to sell iOvens and iLightfittings of the back of the iWatch will be enough
          What would you have said was Apple's next big thing in 2000? In 2006? In 2009? Would you have been correct?

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            #35
            Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
            There's still never been a shred of evidence that Apple is even planning to make a watch. It'd be pretty funny if Samsung spent all that money making one and Apple turned out - as is often the case - to be moving in a completely different direction.
            I thought that myself a few months ago.
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              #36
              Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
              What would you have said was Apple's next big thing in 2000? In 2006? In 2009? Would you have been correct?
              No, but I wouldn't have imagined Blackberry becoming extinct either and their sole existence depended on being a status symbol as well

              Who in 2000 who'd have thought that you wouldn't be able to buy an IBM PC anymore ?

              They will survive, but they're glory days aren't exactly guaranteed.. Any major transistion like that is a big gamble
              Doing the needful since 1827

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                #37
                Originally posted by doodab View Post
                You think they will start making iHoovers?
                I can imagine plebs paying a fortune for a hoover just because it's got rounded corners and white paint job
                Doing the needful since 1827

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                  Who in 2000 who'd have thought that you wouldn't be able to buy an IBM PC anymore ?
                  I thought the writing was on the wall once EISA had trounced MCA in the Nineties, TBH.

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                    #39
                    Isn't there a Apple conference this month? Maybe we will see something new.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                      The iWatch will not be first to market, Samsung have got their first
                      Being first isn't the point, being actually useful is the point. The Samsung basically doesn't do anything:
                      the Galaxy Gear's main use is to notify you of happenings on your phone


                      Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                      Apple stopped making decent servers
                      IBM sensibly sold its laptop division to Lenovo when it became clear that it couldn't make money / compete. Seems they might do the same with their Intel server line too. What's the point in trying to compete in a market where you know you'll lose / are losing? Apple sensibly decided to focus on its core strengths instead of competing with HP/Dell.



                      Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                      The only real market is iPhones, and they're fast approaching being fast enough to run anything and new features are just gimmicks...as soon as they stop being status symbols (Hello Blackberry this used to be you) sales will flatline
                      Several flawed premises in there. Stick do the day job. Poor analysis.



                      Originally posted by amcdonald View Post
                      I don't think trying to sell iOvens and iLightfittings of the back of the iWatch will be enough
                      In your opinion. While it's unlikely (in my opinion) that Apple would go into those markets, if they could produce a top-end innovative and easy to use product, why not? Have you seen this:
                      Apple iPod creator releases smoke alarm | Associated News



                      My advice to anyone who doesn't like their products, thinks their strategy is bad or says they are overpriced is simple: don't buy Apple. What's the problem? What's the constant need to say "yours in crap therefore mine is better".

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