Englishness

[MyUserName]

And is ginger!

And wears woad

[Mich the Tester]

And wears woad

And tartan ties

[amcdonald]

What would make somebody 'Scottish' if someone who was born in Edinburgh, grew up in the Hebrides and Fort William and elected to parliament by the people of Inverness isn't Scottish in your eyes?

They're born and live in America, and consider themselves Scottish because once a year they toss their caber and get blind drunk ?

[Mich the Tester]

They're born and live in America, and consider themselves Scottish because once a year they toss their caber and get blind drunk ?

Oi tought dey were 'Oirish-Americans'. Plastic Paddies seems to be the term.

[MyUserName]

They're born and live in America, and consider themselves Scottish because once a year they toss their caber and get blind drunk ?

Only once a year! No wonder they are so miserable

[Runs With Scissors]

I think if you have British roots i.e. parants or grandparants, or even if you don't but moved here when you were young and grew up here, then it's part of your identity and who you are, so you're as English as you feel.

I'm not normally one given to nationalistic tendencies, but this could possibly be why so many Scots get a bit miffed. British != English. You hear this all the time. Queen of England is another one that rips my knitting.....

Rant over.

[Mich the Tester]

I'm not normally one given to nationalistic tendencies, but this could possibly be why so many Scots get a bit miffed. British != English. You hear this all the time. Queen of England is another one that rips my knitting.....

Rant over.

Yes, but she is the Queen of England, just as she is also the Queen of Scotland.

[doodab]

I'm not normally one given to nationalistic tendencies, but this could possibly be why so many Scots get a bit miffed. British != English. You hear this all the time. Queen of England is another one that rips my knitting.....

Rant over.

Yeah yeah whatever. The thing is that outside of football and rugby scotland don't have a team, and most people that come over and adopt their new homeland become English, they don't become Scottish because a big part of Scottishness is hating the English and they have no reason to. So they become British, yes, but when it comes to the home nations rivalries they usually become English.

[scooterscot]

What would make somebody 'Scottish' if someone who was born in Edinburgh, grew up in the Hebrides and Fort William and elected to parliament by the people of Inverness isn't Scottish in your eyes?

No. Just any of them that gets into bed with the tories. Do you think the same Scottish Liberal MP's currently in parliament will see a 2nd term? Not on your nelly, the electorate will make them pay for such traitorous behaviour. It's part of the reason why lib-dems (typically strong in Scotland) have suffered so much recently.

[Mich the Tester]

No. Just any of them that gets into bed with the tories. Do you think the same Scottish Liberal MP's currently in parliament will see a 2nd term? Not on your nelly, the electorate will make them pay for such traitorous behaviour. It's part of the reason why lib-dems (typically strong in Scotland) have suffered so much recently.

So people in Scotland who vote conservative or liberal democrat can't be considered 'Scottish'?

You have some rather interesting ideas about how democracy will work in Scotland.