Recruitment Consultants are parasites

[Ticktock]

Yes.

£500 per day is okay for sure but I'm knowing lawyers who charge £250 an hour. It pales into comparison. If the world was as fair as you propose it would be near impossible to find those who really do have skills and those wide mouth boys who have the gift of the gab.

Also you forget (and I don't know how the government has done it) but 500 today is it not what it was in 2006, Sterling has become hugely depressed against all the major currencies, it's worth less for sure and should be a wake up call.

Um, so what? I know lawyers who charge a lot more than £250 an hour. I know of footballers earning a lot more than that. Yes, some people earn a hell of a lot more than I do - they also have a completely different skillset and work in different industries than I do.
What bearing does that have on how a permie earning £28k a year will view someone else doing the same type of work, but on £500 per day? The value of the £500 doesn't matter. It's the perception of that £500 that matters.

As usual, it looks like you're shifting the argument.
1. The initial premise was that a post criticising contractors for charging £500 per day would also be popular, especially if that money was coming from the public purse.
2. Your response was "Why would they criticise someone who has worked hard for an education to better themselves and income?".
3. The counter-argument was that they won't care how hard you worked (and they may have worked just as hard and have the same qualifications). What they will see is that you are charging for one day nearly as much as they get for one week.

Hopefully breaking this into bullet points will make it easier to follow, if you don't get confused by the numbers.

[scooterscot]

There is no pressure on UK businesses to be more productive when labour is cheap and the supply plentiful.

And we wonder why our exports are falling. There's every pressure for business to become more efficient, the same production in less time. In fact since every recession ever recorded it's the single theme that comes out, increased efficiency.

If that's not pressure to improve I don't know what is. Business needs to do more with less, that's where the success lies. We should have learnt by now cheap labour is a short term game we'll always loose and is not one for us to be playing.

[d000hg]

Also you forget (and I don't know how the government has done it) but 500 today is it not what it was in 2006, Sterling has become hugely depressed against all the major currencies, it's worth less for sure and should be a wake up call.

Poor diddums tax avoider struggling to afford private school for his kids.


Would I expect be about the level of sympathy such a comment would garner.

[DodgyAgent]

£500 per day is okay for sure but I'm knowing lawyers who charge £250 an hour. It pales into comparison. If the world was as fair as you propose it would be near impossible to find those who really do have skills and those wide mouth boys who have the gift of the gab.

So you think you are worth more than £500 a day just because of well "who you are"?.
If the world was fair you would be earning a lot less than £500 a day.
Obviously you resent lawyers earning more than you because you have an inflated idea of "what you are worth"

We can all play that game why are you worth more than a farmer in Africa or a doctor in India or a teacher in Cambodia?

The sheer arrogance that you display is beyond parody

[MaryPoppins]

£500 per day is okay for sure but I'm knowing lawyers who charge £250 an hour. It pales into comparison. If the world was as fair as you propose it would be near impossible to find those who really do have skills and those wide mouth boys who have the gift of the gab.

So you think you are worth more than £500 a day just because of well "who you are"?.
If the world was fair you would be earning a lot less than £500 a day.
Obviously you resent lawyers earning more than you because you have an inflated idea of "what you are worth"

We can all play that game why are you worth more than a farmer in Africa or a doctor in India or a teacher in Cambodia?

The sheer arrogance that you display is beyond parody

Agreed.

If agents genuinely were that universally crap, they would have ceased to exist well before now. They obviously add some value somewhere along the line; for me, it's in ensuring I get paid on time and little else.

[Old Greg]

Agreed.

If agents genuinely were that universally crap, they would have ceased to exist well before now. They obviously add some value somewhere along the line; for me, it's in ensuring I get paid on time and little else.

The other perspective is that agents remove a lot of the contracts / payment type hassle from clients, making taking on contractors a more palatable business.

[scooterscot]

[I]
So you think you are worth more than £500 a day just because of well "who you are"?.
If the world was fair you would be earning a lot less than £500 a day.

And you claim to be in the business of making money?

Learn the simple lesson of supply and demand. If I choose to learn skills that place in me a niche, and demand increases then I can make more money. My worth is only determined by what others are willing to pay. Do you understand that?

The acquisition of the skills you use to be an agent are not in demand hence you're frustration and anger towards me. If your skills can be acquired for ten a penny don't take your anger out at those that chose a more challenging route. Perhaps try an alternative career path.

We can all play that game why are you worth more than a farmer in Africa or a doctor in India or a teacher in Cambodia?

The sheer arrogance that you display is beyond parody

You're frustration is cause for amusement. If you understood supply & demand, you would not be arguing about worth. I'm sure your energy would be better focused elsewhere.

[DodgyAgent]

And you claim to be in the business of making money?

Learn the simple lesson of supply and demand. If I choose to learn skills that place in me a niche, and demand increases then I can make more money. My worth is only determined by what others are willing to pay. Do you understand that?

The acquisition of the skills you use to be an agent are not in demand hence you're frustration and anger towards me. If your skills can be acquired for ten a penny don't take your anger out at those that chose a more challenging route. Perhaps try an alternative career path.



You're frustration is cause for amusement. If you understood supply & demand, you would not be arguing about worth. I'm sure your energy would be better focused elsewhere.

I perfectly understand the laws of supply and demand. I live by them day to day. I have no contractual entitlement that puts me beyond the vagaries of market forces. It is you that is whining about "fairness" and it is you who is trying to justify your worth(lessness) against what everyone else earns.

[scooterscot]

It is you that is whining about "fairness" and it is you who is trying to justify your worth(lessness) against what everyone else earns.

Show me this thread where I've whined? Can you not read & think at the same time with due diligence and consideration of the text before you? There's a reason you're a recruitment agent.

[d000hg]

SS maybe you should write on a post-it note which side of the fence you're on before you start.