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Cultural fit has been hijacked by the lefties and bleeding hearts
It's supposed to be there as a catchall for: I don't bloody like you, you did not answer my questions to my satisfaction and you just spent an hour sat in front of me looking like a startled rabbit in my headlights...
For crying out loud being old,white,black,brown,gay,fat or all of the above is not going to get you turned down if your skills can be demonstrated and you can socially get on with the person on the other side of the desk.
for what its worth needing a grey beard is a perfectly sound answer. There is no bloody way a 50 year old C x O wants to be lectured by a tadpole that wasn't even out of their fathers balls when the C x O started their career.Comment
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Originally posted by bobspud View PostCultural fit has been hijacked by the lefties and bleeding hearts
It's supposed to be there as a catchall for: I don't bloody like you, you did not answer my questions to my satisfaction and you just spent an hour sat in front of me looking like a startled rabbit in my headlights...
For crying out loud being old,white,black,brown,gay,fat or all of the above is not going to get you turned down if your skills can be demonstrated and you can socially get on with the person on the other side of the desk.
for what its worth needing a grey beard is a perfectly sound answer. There is no bloody way a 50 year old C x O wants to be lectured by a tadpole that wasn't even out of their fathers balls when the C x O started their career.Comment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostDon't panic. It's just your right wing paranoia speaking.Doing the needful since 1827Comment
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Originally posted by bobspud View PostCultural fit has been hijacked by the lefties and bleeding hearts
One (Socialist with capital S) banker informed me that in his interpretaton of Judaism, he was required to kill the candidate in a specific way and personally ensure the destruction of their body. He then offered the newbie 90K straight out of college, C++/Maths skills being more important than their frankly bizarre behaviour.
On The Register I go on and on about "Cultural fit" and if you read the (never censored) comments get slagged for it.
We pimps call it the "pub test", would you go drinking with the candidate ?
That's subjective of course and it costs a lot of ITpros especially contractors real money when they screw it up.
Whilst still a contractor I went for an interview, unaware of my destiny as a pimp I'd misread the situation and the smarm vector of my interview persona was turned up too high, enough that they thought I could not be a hardcore techie, until one person (after the i/v) pointed out to the others that I was gay, which made it all right
Apparently my behaviour (smilling, thanking the junior who brought me coffee, Thomas Pink Shirt, shoes I'd polished until you could see your face, arriving at reception exactly 5 minutes before the interview, nodding every so often when they explained things, clean new suit, etc) was acceptable in a gay techie.
One of my sidelines is training bankers in soft skills and one of the more amusing and valuable is teaching them to breathe (not say) the word "excellent" during interviews at the right point.
My gayness caused some problems when Mrs. Dominic turned up in the pub, apparently they had interpreted my wedding ring as one of the pretend marriages gay people had done before it was made legal, it was only then I discovered their entirely false reasoning.
There are at least two things to take away from this.
Employers want components, things that fit the shape of what they perceive as right for that sort of work.
Do not ever believe that any firm has a high quality employment process, one piece I've got in the queue for The Register has rather interesting evidence of racism at Google.My 12 year old is walking 26 miles for Cardiac Risk in the Young, you can sponsor him hereComment
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Originally posted by Dominic Connor View PostI've seen it as much from people I know to be right or left wing.
One (Socialist with capital S) banker informed me that in his interpretaton of Judaism, he was required to kill the candidate in a specific way and personally ensure the destruction of their body. He then offered the newbie 90K straight out of college, C++/Maths skills being more important than their frankly bizarre behaviour.
On The Register I go on and on about "Cultural fit" and if you read the (never censored) comments get slagged for it.
We pimps call it the "pub test", would you go drinking with the candidate ?
That's subjective of course and it costs a lot of ITpros especially contractors real money when they screw it up.
Whilst still a contractor I went for an interview, unaware of my destiny as a pimp I'd misread the situation and the smarm vector of my interview persona was turned up too high, enough that they thought I could not be a hardcore techie, until one person (after the i/v) pointed out to the others that I was gay, which made it all right
Apparently my behaviour (smilling, thanking the junior who brought me coffee, Thomas Pink Shirt, shoes I'd polished until you could see your face, arriving at reception exactly 5 minutes before the interview, nodding every so often when they explained things, clean new suit, etc) was acceptable in a gay techie.
One of my sidelines is training bankers in soft skills and one of the more amusing and valuable is teaching them to breathe (not say) the word "excellent" during interviews at the right point.
My gayness caused some problems when Mrs. Dominic turned up in the pub, apparently they had interpreted my wedding ring as one of the pretend marriages gay people had done before it was made legal, it was only then I discovered their entirely false reasoning.
There are at least two things to take away from this.
Employers want components, things that fit the shape of what they perceive as right for that sort of work.
Do not ever believe that any firm has a high quality employment process, one piece I've got in the queue for The Register has rather interesting evidence of racism at Google.Comment
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