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Meanwhile in Pyongyang...

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    Meanwhile in Pyongyang...

    Kim obviously hasn't caught on to the K-Pop rage;

    Kim Jong-un's ex-lover 'executed by firing squad' - Telegraph
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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    He must be feeling so ronery now
    Doing the needful since 1827

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      #3
      “They were executed with machine guns while the key members of the Unhasu Orchestra, Wangjaesan Light Band and Moranbong Band as well as the families of the victims looked on,”
      After the executions, family members of the victims were taken to prison camps while the Unhasu Orchestra and Wangjaesan Light Music Band were disbanded.
      Now see, all those 'hooman rights' aren't such a bad thing after all. Yes, sometimes people twist the idea and make it look a bit silly, but really, things aren't so bad here in the UK or Euroland.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        Now see, all those 'hooman rights' aren't such a bad thing after all. Yes, sometimes people twist the idea and make it look a bit silly, but really, things aren't so bad here in the UK or Euroland.
        That's why those who abuse the human rights laws for silly things are far more pernicious and evil than people realise. They devalue it and turn people against it when it actually serves an important purpose.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Bunk View Post
          That's why those who abuse the human rights laws for silly things are far more pernicious and evil than people realise. They devalue it and turn people against it when it actually serves an important purpose.
          Good point, and IMHO it's up to the judges to be wary of that. To be fair though, there will always be some amount of abuse, but perhaps we need to take the rough with the smooth and accept that from time to time there'll be an apparently silly judgment.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #6
            why do we need human rights laws to protect ex girlfriends being shot?
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #7
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              why do we need human rights laws to protect ex girlfriends being shot?
              Clue; it was the government that shot her. Do you trust politicians?
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                Clue; it was the government that shot her. Do you trust politicians?
                If the government shot someone in this country then they are subject to the law just as anyone else is.
                Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                  If the government shot someone in this country then they are subject to the law just as anyone else is.
                  Yep, that's because Britain had the equivalent of hooman rights legislation before hooman rights treaties came along; many, many other places haven't, and it's largely thanks to the likes of Winston Churchill who took the initiative with the ECHR and set the example by signing Britain up to its own treaty that most places in Europe now don't shoot their citizens in the style of Kim.
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    If the government shot someone in this country then they are subject to the law just as anyone else is.
                    The Royal Family and their servants are not subject to the law of the land unless the Queen wavers their privilege. You can’t have The Queen verses The Queen in the law courts.
                    "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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