Privacy vs Paranoia

[MaryPoppins]

Chef - we've had the same conversations and I hold the same view as new gf Chef (That was quick by the way!!) and Spod is of similar thinking to you.

I don't have anything to hide, I couldn't give a tulip if my texts and emails are read by the security services.

Gah. What have I missed here? I thought chef was still planning on doing the whole complicated box proposal thing??

On a side note, I'd be pretty embarrassed if anyone read my emails with CM.

[Pondlife]

On a side note, I'd be pretty embarrassed if anyone read my emails with CM.

We have and you should be.

[sasguru]

On a side note, I'd be pretty embarrassed if anyone read my emails with CM.

Are they about Churchy's small wiener?

[doodab]

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance

Even if you trust the people who run the show now, are you sure you can trust every future president of the US or other countries? What about the descendants of Watson or whatever AI the NSA will have trawling their exabytes of historical data 10 or 20 years hence?

I have nothing to hide, and I'm not too worried about hiding it, but I sure as hell want to be able to hide what I need to hide if and when I ever need to hide it.

I find the growing tide of private sector data collection and profiling for profit ever so slightly unsettling as well. We're already well on the way to creating a world where no indiscretion or mistake can go unnoticed or be forgotten, and people simply aren't designed to live in a world like that.

[chef]

Chef GF should also bear in mind that although she may have nothing to hide now, who's to say she might not in the future? (again, even if she's blameless). What if some malevolent government replaced the relatively benign ones we have now? It often happens.

Well she is open to debate and seeing another point of view, so, what examples can you dig up/recommend?

my thoughts were the movie "the lives of others" about the Stasi, well worth watching if you haven't seen it, and finding an example of a well written (i.e from a respectable source and not the Daily Wail) experience of Israeli border controls affecting innocent law abiding european citizen(s).

[cailin maith]

On a side note, I'd be pretty embarrassed if anyone read my emails with CM.

Woof. Yeah actually, I was thinking about those ones yesterday and I reckon we'd be just chucked on the blonde pile

Are they about Churchy's small wiener?

Well, no - because I don't tell lies

[chef]

Gah. What have I missed here? I thought chef was still planning on doing the whole complicated box proposal thing??

Nope, ex gf chef that I proposed to with the box thing split up. I mentioned it here last month, but in reality it happened back in February (there's a slight delay in what happens in real life and when or if it gets mentioned on here).

I now live happily in Sweden, there is a swedish gf chef on the scene and generally life is pretty damn great. No imminent complicated box proposals or anything similar are planned, settling down and adjusting to life in yet another new country, learning the local lingo and continue invoicing are the main priorities. That and planning a crayfish party for 29 seated guests this weekend in the back garden

[Mich the Tester]

Well she is open to debate and seeing another point of view, so, what examples can you dig up/recommend?

my thoughts were the movie "the lives of others" about the Stasi, well worth watching if you haven't seen it, and finding an example of a well written (i.e from a respectable source and not the Daily Wail) experience of Israeli border controls affecting innocent law abiding european citizen(s).

The stasi, most eastern European governments before the fall of the iron curtain, the government of the former Yugoslavia, Spain under Franco, Portugal's Estado Novo, the current governments in Russia and Belarus, Yenish 'Gypsy' children being hunted down and forcibly adopted in Switzerland right up to the 70s and that nasty little phrase 'extraordinary rendition'; plenty of examples if she cares to do the reading.

[jmo21]

Nope, ex gf chef that I proposed to with the box thing split up. I mentioned it here last month, but in reality it happened back in February (there's a slight delay in what happens in real life and when or if it gets mentioned on here).

I now live happily in Sweden, there is a swedish gf chef on the scene and generally life is pretty damn great. No imminent complicated box proposals or anything similar are planned, settling down and adjusting to life in yet another new country, learning the local lingo and continue invoicing are the main priorities. That and planning a crayfish party for 29 seated guests this weekend in the back garden

So what happened?

Did the box get opened or did she guess and break it off?

[cailin maith]

So what happened?

Did the box get opened or did she guess and break it off?

Click on the "here" underlined in Chefs post and read about it.

sheeesh.... you lot are meant to be the geeks and here is me doing the explaining!!