Safety or stupidity?

[EternalOptimist]

whoever invented bus lanes and taxi lanes, and speed cameras and speed bumps

needs taking out and shooting

[Mich the Tester]

whoever invented bus lanes and taxi lanes, and speed cameras and speed bumps

needs taking out and shooting

whs

[Paddy]

and everyone in London complies with traffic laws of course

Would be more interesting to know how many different languages the signs will be in by 2020.

In fact they do. There are so many cameras for speeding, traffic lights, box junctions not stopping and parking; it causes disruption to emergency vehicles. Daily I see ambulances trying to get through traffic but the traffic won’t move because of the fear of getting a ticket at the lights or box junction.

[d000hg]

whoever invented bus lanes and taxi lanes, and speed cameras and speed bumps

needs taking out and shooting

Bus lanes make sense in areas where they actually have a decent bus service that people might use. Bus lanes which get one bus every 10 minutes while a queue a mile long sits in the other lane, and there is nowhere all those cars could have parked to catch the bus, do not.

[stek]

Oxford has 20 limits, and as far as I can tell the only effect is to make things much more dangerous for cyclists. Because it's much more difficult to overtake them quickly, you end up having to cut back in on them too soon and not giving them as much room as you could if you were allowed to do 30.

Though this being Oxford it's perhaps not such a bad thing. It's amazing how many of the "brightest and best" haven't yet grasped the concept of looking before walking out into the road.

Those bleeding cyclists just slow the buses down and frustrate the driver who already in a bad mode!

[original PM]

last time I drove through central london achieveing 20 mph was just a distant dream

[doodab]

Yup.

Traffic's slower now than when all the cabs were horsedrawn.

The smell is a lot nicer though...

[OwlHoot]

last time I drove through central london achieveing 20 mph was just a distant dream

If vehicles are limited to 20 MPH everywhere then, at the risk of sounding pretentious, there will be many more "phase transitions" from fluid traffic to solid, just as traffic jams start on motorways for no apparent reason when the traffic exceeds a certain density.

Can't see it happening - It will cause too much lost productivity and increase pollution and carbon emissions.

[AtW]

Ban cars in London and turn roads into flat moving escalator thingy (like in Heathrow between some terminals)

[Mich the Tester]

Ban cars in London and turn roads into flat moving escalator thingy (like in Heathrow between some terminals)

Good idea. Clientco's probably the only firm that can build that so it'll keep me invoicing until my pension.