IPv6 - A long time in coming, and never seems to arrive

[AtW]

That plus until it's no longer possible to get IP space in this country there are no particular drivers to change that will convince the people holding the budgets.

They've solved this problem - Carriet Grade NAT for those who won't pay premium for IPv4 - why change when you can make extra money from limited resource?

[lilelvis2000]

I entirely agree it's a complete mare to set up a home email server - I also tried, with some open source thing everyone swore by and found that it was more appropriate to be sworn at, with the dozens of arcane poorly-documented settings etc.

My setup is Ubuntu 10.04, Exim 4 (the email handler), Dovecot (the IMAP dude), OpenLDAP, Fetchmail, Clam and Freshclam (virus scanning), SquirrelMail (for when I'm at home or on the road). I can't remember what sieve I'm using (been so long since I did anything with it)

It took me three months to get all of that going. And I mean full time three months. Not part time on weekends. And it still has the odd hiccup. Especially the share folder in Dovecot which I just hacked using file permissions and "the proper way" didn't work at all.

So anyone out there wanting that setup, please do not call. I'm fed up with the damn thing.

The biggest drag on this is that the workstations all use Outlook 2010 which is tulip at IMAP. 2013 is much better but both have a nasty habit of corrupting the profile and then you can't send or receive e-mails.

One thing missing in all this is a calendar. We use Google for that and their (now defunct) sync app.

I am seriously thinking of using Office 365 as I got a lot of free seats with my Action Pack sub. Got two people using it to test out. Migh switch one of my domains over to give it a go.

what were we talking about again?

[OwlHoot]

I've got deja vu

Well it seemed worth wheeling out again, to see if there'd be more ideas and opinions

and lucky I did too, or we'd have missed Suity's incisive contributions

P.S. Also, it is topical given recent attempts to resurrect the Data Communications Bill

[suityou01]

Well it seemed worth wheeling out again, to see if there'd be more ideas and opinions

and lucky I did too, or we'd have missed Suity's incisive contributions

P.S. Also, it is topical given recent attempts to resurrect the Data Communications Bill

Owly old chap, listen.

To get a mail server up and running you'd need a domain name and an MX record. This would have to be provided by an ISP or web hosting service. Then you would simply install your mail server, open port 25 on your firewall and adjust your MX record to point to your external IP.

This has frak all to do with whether you are running IP4 or if IP6 comes along. It's still a piece of piss to set up.

[doodab]

I am seriously thinking of using Office 365 as I got a lot of free seats with my Action Pack sub. Got two people using it to test out. Migh switch one of my domains over to give it a go.

You also get both SBS and exchange proper, so perhaps have a look at those if you'd rather keep it in house.

[OwlHoot]

Owly old chap, listen.

To get a mail server up and running you'd need a domain name and an MX record. This would have to be provided by an ISP or web hosting service. Then you would simply install your mail server, open port 25 on your firewall and adjust your MX record to point to your external IP.

This has frak all to do with whether you are running IP4 or if IP6 comes along. It's still a piece of piss to set up.

I was using mail servers as an example - The big picture is cloud/web services in general.

[doodab]

There is a big difference between getting something connected and making something useful. Running your own stuff can be fun and educational but most people, even hardcore techies, probably have better things to do.

[suityou01]

I was using mail servers as an example - The big picture is cloud/web services in general.

Well most companies I have worked for are clambering to move their stuff to cloud asap. Reduced the cost of ownership massively. I can't see ipv6 changing the desire to reduce overheads.

[Sysman]

I'm pretty sure my home Internet IP address isn't officially a static IP, but it has been the same for the last 3 years.

So functionally to me it works as my personal global storage.

Yes, until I moved house mine had been sitting on the same address for the last couple of years and maybe longer, and when it changed I would knobble the DNS entry to match.

But the address came out of a dynamic pool and therefore listed in various places as a likely source of spam, meaning that setting up my own mail server was a no-go.

If you really want there are various places that will do mail forwarding for you, at a cost of course. The last time I looked at those costs I could rent a load of space with gobs of bandwidth for a similar price, so it wasn't worth it for me.