Atheism is not viable

[wendigo100]

Re: Atheism

That we can live good, ethical, lives without religious or superstitious beliefs

etc...

Not negative, just utterly unrealistic. Here's another one:

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

[Lucifer Box]

Re: Atheism

How can the above be classified as negative?

Because if you screw something up you've got no one to blame but yourself, whereas in Chico's world you can just shrug it off and say, "hey-ho, it's the will of God".

[SupremeSpod]

Oi Wendi

That we can live good, ethical, lives without religious or superstitious beliefs

What's unrealistic?

Are you saying that you have to be religious or superstitious to live a good, ethical life?

[wendigo100]

Re: Oi Wendi

No, just that the human race won't do that. Nice idea, but so is heaven with 72 virgins.

The only thing I'd say about religion is that, without it, if I had the power to enjoy a magnificent life at the expense of others, what is to stop me?

[ChicoLondon]

Wrong again

Lucifer

How is it the will of God if the said farmer in Bulawayo exercises his free will and sleeps with 20 women putting himself at risk of AIDS? You have missed the point once again - it is about exercising self control and being accountable for your own actions. Secondly are you saying the AIDS problems in Latin America is worse than in Central and Southern Africa?

[Lucifer Box]

Re: Wrong again

Chico, have you forgotten to take the brain pills again this morning?

How is it the will of God if the said farmer in Bulawayo exercises his free will and sleeps with 20 women putting himself at risk of AIDS

It isn't.

Secondly are you saying the AIDS problems in Latin America is worse than in Central and Southern Africa?

No. Are you? Or are you saying that unless an area's AIDS problem is worse than Africa's then it doesn't really have one?

[SupremeSpod]

Re: Oi Wendi

The only thing I'd say about religion is that, without it, if I had the power to enjoy a magnificent life at the expense of others, what is to stop me?

How does religion stop you?

[ChicoLondon]

Wrong again

Lucifer

Looks like you forgot your brain pills this morning. When did I say Latin America did not have an AIDS problem?

nope most are in Latin America. We do not hear of a massive AIDS problem there do we?

Thats what I actually said - note the word massive implying it is not as big a problem as the African one.

[jabberjobber]

Re: Wrong again

Chico, why do you persist in trying to change the minds of those who have already made up their minds. No, far better to catch them while they are young or ignorant. I suggest an expedition up the Amazon, to spread the word to those people that time has forgot. Some of these tribes are cannibals and would really like to talk to a pale plumpy preacher over dinner.

[wendigo100]

Re: Oi Wendi

How does religion stop you?

Some people are a bit more restrained by the thought of some sort of god keeping an eye on them. Others develop a good nature from their belief in what god, jesus or mohammed are supposed to have said.

I don't feel very strongly about arguing that side of things, so take it how you like, really.