The real attraction of UKIP

[darmstadt]

Hm, well, I'd find it somewhat worrying if my party of choice was officially endorsed by fascists like the EDL...

Me too as the UKIP are the only party that has found the need to ban the BNP, EDL, and NF members from joining their brigade – something that is not always effective – which in itself suggests that their politics attracts undesirable members. Moreover, accusations of racism have dogged UKIP from the very beginning, with their founder quitting and calling the Party ‘morally dodgy’ and ‘extremely right wing.’

[lilelvis2000]

UKIP are just a softy, nicey version of the racist parties. Some of their party members have said some pretty outrageous stuff.

[minestrone]

Hm, well, I'd find it somewhat worrying if my party of choice was officially endorsed by fascists like the EDL...

Hmm...

Does that mean I should take the Wagner box set I had got you for your birthday back to the shop?

[lilelvis2000]

Hm, well, I'd find it somewhat worrying if my party of choice was officially endorsed by fascists like the EDL...

UKIP would rather they didn't do it in the open. Nigel Farage strikes me as a racist and most definitely an islamophobe. But that could just be to get votes, though the longer he carries on with it, the more I think he's just a bigot with a party.

I suppose in that sense EDL, BNP & UKIP could be merged.

[KentPhilip]

UKIP are just a softy, nicey version of the racist parties. Some of their party members have said some pretty outrageous stuff.

Such as?

Me too as the UKIP are the only party that has found the need to ban the BNP, EDL, and NF members from joining their brigade – something that is not always effective – which in itself suggests that their politics attracts undesirable members. Moreover, accusations of racism have dogged UKIP from the very beginning, with their founder quitting and calling the Party ‘morally dodgy’ and ‘extremely right wing.’

UKIP and the BNP/EDL share a proper right-wing ideology. Put to proper use it can be very beneficial to a country and its people - look at the huge technological advancements in Nazi Germany from 1933-38, such as the autobahns. It is only when you give the state too much power, as happened then, that things go wrong.
Perhaps those EDL supporters have started to realise that their own parties stand no chance of success in the polls, and have gone over to UKIP. It is now UKIP's role to educate them and lay down the law in regard to the difference between UKIP policy and what makes them electable, and the EDL equivalent.

Nigel Farage strikes me as a racist and most definitely an islamophobe. ..
I suppose in that sense EDL, BNP & UKIP could be merged.

Example please?

There is no way that UKIP would ever change its policies to accommodate the BNP. To do so would go against its foundation libertarian principles and lose vast numbers of votes. Including mine.

Hm, well, I'd find it somewhat worrying if my party of choice was officially endorsed by fascists like the EDL...

I shouldn't worry. Every vote counts, even if it is a "count" that has the vote (sp)..

[DimPrawn]

Looks like LibLabCon are using tulipting themselves, the ToryGraph have a piece saying UKIP are wanting to form a coalition with Labour.

Nigel Farage: 'I could work with Labour or Boris' - Telegraph

Basically the LibLabCon controlled media are trying to destroy the UKIP vote at any cost.

[minestrone]

The Observer have been bumming Farage up for the last year, gave him a 2 page spread about 4 months ago.

My enemy's enemy and all that.

[Flashman]

[QUOTE]

Such as?



......UKIP and the BNP/EDL share a proper right-wing ideology......

Not really.

UKIP = Libertarians, are right wing. the BNP = National Socialists, are amongst other things, left wing.


Libertarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[lilelvis2000]

Such as?

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hah! oh come on. He regularly pulls out the "my kids are learning about other religions but mine" line. My lad comes home all the time going on about Jesus this and that.. But not once has he come home going on about Holi, Eid or Passover.

Then there's the "Sharia Courts" red herring. And the whole women are oppressed by the niqab thing. UKIP also brought that Dutch politician with that anti-Islam flim over.

Pretty clear Farage jumps all over whatever can get him votes. And if that means bashing minorities, he'll do it.

He might have your vote. I see him as a moaning bigot.

[KentPhilip]

hah! oh come on. He regularly pulls out the "my kids are learning about other religions but mine" line. My lad comes home all the time going on about Jesus this and that.. But not once has he come home going on about Holi, Eid or Passover.

Maybe Farage's children are going to school in different areas from you. Obviously I can't say whether what he reports as a fact is true or not. But I can't believe that jewish children going to school in predominently jewish areas in the UK don't receive at least some education in Holi, Eid, or matters of the Passover.