Germany versus Britain - shocking statistics

[RasputinDude]

It's actually considered the 5th most economically free country in the world. Indeed, behind 4 other incredibly wealthy countries. Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and Hong Kong.

I'd be interested in seeing how that was evaluated - genuinely interested that is, not just for the sake of this thread - as corporate and labour laws over there are pretty strong; which would mean to me that you can have strong regulation *and* have a high degree of economic freedom.

[sasguru]

It's actually considered the 5th most economically free country in the world. Indeed, behind 4 other incredibly wealthy countries. Australia, New Zealand, Singapore and Hong Kong.

Though these examples are possible straw-man arguments too.

What do those countries have in common? They're small.
I guess that's not the strawman fallacy.
What's the logical fallacy where you compare apples and pears?

Oz is doing well recently because of demand for its raw materials rather than any economic genius.

[Robinho]

I'd be interested in seeing how that was evaluated - genuinely interested that is, not just for the sake of this thread - as corporate and labour laws over there are pretty strong; which would mean to me that you can have strong regulation *and* have a high degree of economic freedom.

Here is your answer.

Switzerland Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption

As for regulations, you get good and bad regulations really. Some which respect market forces and property rights (such as contract enforcement laws) and others which don't (minimum wage).

[MyUserName]

There is absolutely no evidence that any soldiers were sent into battle without a weapon.

How do you know this? Have you checked every evidence source in the world?

The Russian medium tank in 1941 was the t34/76 which had between 50-60 mm of front armour.
The axis medium tank was the pzIV 75mm. which had a front armour of 70-80 mm.

The t34 armour had a massive advantage, it was sloped. Ther Germans thought this made it twice as hard to penetrate. Their response was to copy and improve the t34 in 1943, they called it the Panther.

You are making the mistake of assuming that the specs aimed at were achieved. The T34 suffered from numerous quality issues and there was a shortage or repair vehicles and resources. Along with the shortage of good leaders.

Although they do seem to have had technical advantage at the start of the war, it seems that prodtuion problems and poor leadership prevented them from really capitalising on it.

Hence:

The combat statistics for 1941 show that the Soviets lost an average of over seven tanks for every German tank lost.[

In 1941, the germans had about 400 of the pz IV, with about double the number of lighter tanks
The Russians had about 1,500 T34/76 plus nearly a hundred heavy tanks on the western front

It does seem that they had an initial tank advantage, it is a shame it did not hold back the Germans advance.

The Soviets also had a massive airforce.

So ... what was it doing as the Germans marched to within 25 miles (or so) of Moscow? Why didn't it break the sieges?

[RasputinDude]

Here is your answer.

Switzerland Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption

Thankyou. That's tonight's interesting reading sorted

[sasguru]

Here is your answer.

Switzerland Economy: Population, GDP, Inflation, Business, Trade, FDI, Corruption

As for regulations, you get good and bad regulations really. Some which respect market forces and property rights (such as contract enforcement laws) and others which don't (minimum wage).

According to your own listing the UK beats Germany on the economic freedom stakes.
But as the point of the thread was to point out how much more succesful Germany is than the Uk, surely the logical conclusion is what I have been arguing all along: economic freedom does not necessarily lead to prosperity.

There you go Robbie: hoist with your own petard. Thanks for proving my point
Next!

[Robinho]

According to your own listing the UK beats Germany on the economic freedom stakes.
But as the point of the thread was to point out how much more succesful Germany is than the Uk, surely the logical conclusion is what I have been arguing all along: economic freedom does not necessarily lead to prosperity.

There you go Robbie: hoist with your own petard. Thanks for proving my point
Next!

I have never disagreed with that, for reasons i have already stated. (the molestation of money that has occurred in the UK/US)

[EternalOptimist]

How do you know this? Have you checked every evidence source in the world?



You are making the mistake of assuming that the specs aimed at were achieved. The T34 suffered from numerous quality issues and there was a shortage or repair vehicles and resources. Along with the shortage of good leaders.

Although they do seem to have had technical advantage at the start of the war, it seems that prodtuion problems and poor leadership prevented them from really capitalising on it.

Hence:






It does seem that they had an initial tank advantage, it is a shame it did not hold back the Germans advance.




So ... what was it doing as the Germans marched to within 25 miles (or so) of Moscow? Why didn't it break the sieges?

There is absolutely no evidence that any soldier was sent into battle without a weapon.

Your other points just go to prove and support my point - The soviet army was excellently equipped.
They got battered, but they were not short of good stuff.
So I think that the onus is on you to prove such a ridiculous claim

[sasguru]

That might be the case if you had provided any evidence beyond "Germans like Wurst so eating Wurst is clearly the key to a strong economy".

Logic isn't your strong point is it? The point is you keep repeating that only laissez faire policies lead to economic success (I wonder if you rock backwards and forwards when you do that).
So all I have to do to disprove your theory is to show one counter-example.
And there you are, flummoxed and back-pedalling like an nun at a swingers party

[sasguru]

. (the molestation of money that has occurred in the UK/US)

And the Euro was not kept artifically low over the last decade?
One by one your pet theories are being dismantled leaving you exposed like a 15 year old virgin at a paedo meeting.