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Helicopter crash in London

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    #31
    Originally posted by Bunk View Post
    Not surprised it happened to be honest. The fog was bad this morning. When I got into the office in Canary Wharf I couldn't see a single building around ours, or the ground
    Couldn't see the other side of the river this morning so it was pretty bad. They think that the warning light on the crane that the copter hit wasn't on at the time so it was an accident waiting to happen

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      #32
      Originally posted by redgiant View Post
      Couldn't see the other side of the river this morning so it was pretty bad. They think that the warning light on the crane that the copter hit wasn't on at the time so it was an accident waiting to happen
      Apparently the crane was reported for not being properly lit in October.

      Vauxhall helicopter crash: Police 'warned about lights on crane in October ' | Metro News

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        #33
        Helicopter crash in London

        Don't helicopters have any radar or terrain guidance or other fancy gadgets wot planes have got?

        Was Noel Edmonds flying it?

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          #34
          Originally posted by stek View Post
          Don't helicopters have any radar or terrain guidance or other fancy gadgets wot planes have got?
          TCAS - no, only larger aircraft have those gizmos

          And anyway, the database is generic, like a mountain in your general vicinity. It wouldn't be as fine grained as a crane arm.
          Last edited by centurian; 16 January 2013, 17:00.

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            #35
            i missed it by 20 minutes. i was on the train on that bridge you can see in the video.

            if i have left the house the normal time i would have been there when it happened.

            saw quite a few clear up vehicles on the way back.

            RIP.
            Happy days every day...just keep invoicing.

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              #36
              I find this difficult to work out, personally as a PPL, from the MSM.

              It seems he was in contact with ATC for a diversion to Battersea due to deteriorating weather conditions and went on the H4 heli route to London.

              It requires ATC clearance before you can enter that airspace.

              As the weather was bad, he would be flying under IFR and would be observing the MSA over London plus a 500ft safety margin which would have avoided the highest structure (including cranes) regarless whether they were illuminated etc

              He's an experienced pilot - 12k+ hours on helo type and, I'm not sure, but the Agusta helo he was flying may have had an altimeter radar.

              You would not intentionally be flying that low in IFR.

              I can only assume he had a mechanical problem and was losing altitude.

              Hopefully after the report we can tell.

              Very sad.

              RIP
              If you think my attitude stinks, you should smell my fingers.

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                #37
                Originally posted by hyperD View Post
                I can only assume he had a mechanical problem and was losing altitude.
                Seems helicopter was out of control. And no radio contact. Some sort of mechanical failure?

                Presumably the black box (or is it orange box?) will give a clue.

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