Oh Coffee Bean, Oh Coffee Bean

[Mich the Tester]

I couldn't agree more, I work for 20+ devs here and the guy before me lasted only a few weeks and I was told he wasn't very contentious which is definitely a no-no if you're a tester. I despise the whole certificate issue to it really grips my tulipe, big deal if someone has an intermediate that trumps my foundation I have balls of steel lol

I remember working on a banking application where I could bypass many of the business rules by using an 'unsupported' browser. IE, Chrome and FF were specified so naturally I did some tests with Safari and found I could do lots of naughty things that could bankrupt the place. PM's standard ****wit response was ' not a valid test as Safari isn't specified'. My response; 'tell that to a fraudster', which didn't make much difference anyway as he was hired by a banker. Why they were implementing business rules at GUI level remains a mystery to me, but the Bob developers probably had their reasons.

[bless 'em all]

I despise the whole certificate issue to it really grips my tulipe, big deal if someone has an intermediate that trumps my foundation

WSS. +1

It's putting the theory into practice which can prove difficult for some. I imagine it's the same for dev/dba/PM.

Sadly these days the ones with the 'certs' are chasing the same jobs as those of us with the experience.

(I wonder if Usain Bolt has a GCSE in 'Sports Science'?)

[Mich the Tester]

I think a good start to selecting testers is to sit them down in front of a screen with an application, give them a list of things they are absolutely NOT allowed to do and see how many of those things they do in half an hour. The ones that do everything on the list probably have the right character to be proper testers, unless of course there's a rule saying ' you're not allowed to murder someone'.

[The Spartan]

I hope I get the chance to put that into practice in the near future