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How will you prepare for pension poverty?

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    #11
    Two words: Rental income.

    Even if the UK declines, London rents will (1) always be one of the highest in the world and (2) rise with inflation.
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #12
      Originally posted by Gentile View Post
      There was a member of the House of Lords calling for pensioners to have their pensions cut if they refused to do unpaid work recently. Hey, isn't that whole not working thing why they call it retirement? And isn't it meant to be a privilege that you've bought and paid for, increasingly without any say in the matter, rather than a means-tested benefit?

      Remember the above attitude when it comes to deciding whether you want to opt out of auto-enrolment in purchased private sector pension schemes that are likely to be treated as means-tested benefit by the time it comes to pay out. Pension schemes are a bad joke that the insurance industry and the government plays on the general public. They're merely the markets' way of conning present day workers out of the funds they need to keep the public sector and financial markets' gravy trains going.
      You are spot-on there.

      I might add that Lord Bichard, far from thinking outside the box, is thinking well inside a blinkered box that politicians are all too fond of: cost-free economics. He is ignoring that fact that every "retired" person who is forced to do work in order to get their pension (and, shorn of fine phrases like "making a contribution", that is what he is proposing) is someone else of "working" age who will now be out of work.

      So you replace young workers with old conscripts, thus paying the oldsters' pensions and the youngsters' unemployment benefits as well, and get a worse job done for your pains? Can old Lords please retire gracefully?
      Job motivation: how the powerful steal from the stupid.

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        #13
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        self-euthanase when the dosh runs out.
        Kids / wife won't get the insurance payout then, need to take up some extreme sports and be bad at them...
        ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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          #14
          Rental income here as well. Everything is about demographics.
          ...my quagmire of greed....my cesspit of laziness and unfairness....all I am doing is sticking two fingers up at nurses, doctors and other hard working employed professionals...

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            #15
            Vote for governments that borrow tuliploads of money they can never repay, cut any kind of provision to young people and give all the pseudo-money to me in the form of the divine right to a pension at 65.

            Regards

            A. Babyboomer
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #16
              Record male survival on both sides of my family is 76 so not much pension needed - that's my plan.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Lockhouse View Post
                Rental income here as well. Everything is about demographics.


                Immigration, money printing, draconian planning laws.

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                  #18
                  HYP SIPP

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post


                    Immigration, money printing, draconian planning laws.
                    Of all the bad options it seems like the most reasonable one - worst case you can always live in it.
                    That and rare metals, gold may or may not be good enough that's why I'd recommend diversifying the portfolio.
                    Also land growing food, if you're prepared to protect should things go sour...

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                      #20
                      Farmland.
                      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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