This "Jimmy Savile" thing...

[SimonMac]

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Cant you just ban Pacharan again ? He really has issues.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I think that those who stood by and let this happen are effectively partners in the crime that was committed here.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

[tractor]

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Something else that strikes me as pretty odd about all this.

I have seen absolutely zero claims or corroboration from a single male witness. I wouldn't have thought it possible that could happen. Did absolutely NO ONE have a sense of right and wrong during the 40 years this was alleged to have carried on?

[TestMangler]

<Jimmy Saville>And straight in at 14........</Jimmy Saville>

[minestrone]

Something else that strikes me as pretty odd about all this.

I have seen absolutely zero claims or corroboration from a single male witness. I wouldn't have thought it possible that could happen. Did absolutely NO ONE have a sense of right and wrong during the 40 years this was alleged to have carried on?

A chap yesterday made claims, said he informed the police at the time and was never called back.

[SueEllen]

I think that those who stood by and let this happen are effectively partners in the crime that was committed here.


"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

The Rochdale and other recent cases show what the authorities do when children are being abused now and whose stories are supported by adults including their own parents - so do you really think some adult woman complaining in the 1970s and early 1980s would be believed?
Especially if the women were also subjected to sexual harassment themselves and their complaints were ignored?

Added to this is that Mr Saville use to sue people into silence. This is thanks to our stupid libel laws.

The media made it socially acceptable to sleep with a 14 year old if you were an adult male who was old enough to be her father as some rock stars did in the 70s and 80s - one of the Stones did this.

Remember Childline was only founded in 1986 and loads of people thought that Ms Rantzen was talking tulip and encouraging children to make up stories.

[SueEllen]

I have seen absolutely zero claims or corroboration from a single male witness. I wouldn't have thought it possible that could happen. Did absolutely NO ONE have a sense of right and wrong during the 40 years this was alleged to have carried on?

I heard that Jonathan King, who was convicted for abusing boys, complained, that others unnamed where doing the same with girls the same age as the boys he was abusing yet he was the only one convicted.

[ZARDOZ]

He was never tried of anything and he was never charged with anything yet the Media and most of the public have decided he was Guilty. They used to have public trials of the dead in the Dark Ages.

They are working on doing this to John Peel next.

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The Rochdale and other recent cases show what the authorities do when children are being abused now and whose stories are supported by adults including their own parents - so do you really think some adult woman complaining in the 1970s and early 1980s would be believed?
Especially if the women were also subjected to sexual harassment themselves and their complaints were ignored?

Added to this is that Mr Saville use to sue people into silence. This is thanks to our stupid libel laws.

The media made it socially acceptable to sleep with a 14 year old if you were an adult male who was old enough to be her father as some rock stars did in the 70s and 80s - one of the Stones did this.

Remember Childline was only founded in 1986 and loads of people thought that Ms Rantzen was talking tulip and encouraging children to make up stories.

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Add this to the other stories of children killed by parents whilst childcare services stood by and did little or nothing amazes me.