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    #11
    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    As you seem to be the person to ask, what does it take to satisfy the spineless?

    Is it spineless to oppose a war of aggression?
    The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

    George Frederic Watts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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      #12
      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
      French Flag?

      Have a read about the Battle of Verdun.
      The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

      George Frederic Watts

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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        #13
        Originally posted by speling bee View Post
        Is it spineless to oppose a war of aggression?
        What other type of war is there?
        Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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          #14
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          Neville Chamberlain?
          Please do expand on that one.
          The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

          George Frederic Watts

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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            #15
            Originally posted by speling bee View Post
            Please do expand on that one.
            He declared war on Germany as Blair and Bush did on Iraq
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              #16
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              What other type of war is there?
              A war of self-defence is one type. Anyway, you have demonstrated my original point so I will leave you to your educationally sub-normal trolling.
              The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

              George Frederic Watts

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                #17
                Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                A war of self-defence is one type. Anyway, you have demonstrated my original point so I will leave you to your educationally sub-normal trolling.
                The Germans had pledged not to attack the UK.
                Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                  #18
                  I sense something else kicked off this thread. But I don't know what it was.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    The Germans had pledged not to attack the UK.
                    Collective self-defence (arising from collective security) is a form of self-defence. Britain and France were entitled in law (and obliged in treaty) to respond to a German war of aggression against Poland.

                    This situation can be compared to the response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, but not to the second Iraq war. There really is no legal basis for for the second wat.

                    To illustrate the gravity of the crime of aggression, these are the charges levelled against Tojo after the defeat of Japan.

                    Count 1 (waging wars of aggression, and war or wars in violation of international law)
                    Count 27 (waging unprovoked war against the Republic of China)
                    Count 29 (waging aggressive war against the United States of America)
                    Count 31 (waging aggressive war against the British Commonwealth of Nations)
                    Count 32 (waging aggressive war against the Kingdom of the Netherlands)
                    Count 33 (waging aggressive war against the French Republic)
                    Count 54 (ordering, authorizing, and permitting inhumane treatment of Prisoners of War (POWs) and others)

                    Hideki T
                    The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                    George Frederic Watts

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                      Collective self-defence (arising from collective security) is a form of self-defence. Britain and France were entitled in law (and obliged in treaty) to respond to a German war of aggression against Poland.

                      This situation can be compared to the response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, but not to the second Iraq war. There really is no legal basis for for the second wat.

                      To illustrate the gravity of the crime of aggression, these are the charges levelled against Tojo after the defeat of Japan.

                      Count 1 (waging wars of aggression, and war or wars in violation of international law)
                      Count 27 (waging unprovoked war against the Republic of China)
                      Count 29 (waging aggressive war against the United States of America)
                      Count 31 (waging aggressive war against the British Commonwealth of Nations)
                      Count 32 (waging aggressive war against the Kingdom of the Netherlands)
                      Count 33 (waging aggressive war against the French Republic)
                      Count 54 (ordering, authorizing, and permitting inhumane treatment of Prisoners of War (POWs) and others)

                      Hideki T
                      So "collective security" did not apply to Iraq then? Define collective security
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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