One for the parents among us....

[cailin maith]

Missing Jeremy Kyle that much?

Nah - the real housewives

[chef]

You holidaying in the uk chef or Germany?

if so, Sheringham is lovely.. just got back from there.. took a ride on the steam train and gained some brownie points..

No I think we'll be heading to the Zeeland area of the Netherlands, for the dutch coast. It's her favourite local (well driveable within a few hours) spot, good for cycling, a decent beach, nice quaint villages and some good restaruants. Most of all, it's quiet and mainly child free.

[moggy]

No I think we'll be heading to the Zeeland area of the Netherlands, for the dutch coast. It's her favourite local (well driveable within a few hours) spot, good for cycling, a decent beach, nice quaint villages and some good restaruants. Most of all, it's quiet and mainly child free.

Must be quite close to Aachen then i'd imagine..

Enjoy

[chef]

Zeeland, Netherlands

[moggy]

Zeeland, Netherlands

Never been there, but in Aachen quite regularly, and stop for a day or so in Bruge on the drive over occassionally.. so might have to see if i can check it out myself instead sometime, thanks.

[mudskipper]

It depends how old s/he is. There are quite a few studies that show that high levels of group childcare from an early age have a detrimental effect on very young children compared to those who are cared for by parents, mostly affecting emotional and behavioural development i.e. they become more aggressive and disobedient. Once they are 3 or 4 years old however "early education" seems to be beneficial.

It would be nice if society could support the choices of each family without piling on the guilt.

Most of us do the best we can for our kids given our own situations. That's all we can ask for.

[SupremeSpod]

It would be nice if society could support the choices of each family without piling on the guilt.

Most of us do the best we can for our kids given our own situations. That's all we can ask for.

Unfortunately Society is populated with gobtulipes like us so nothing's perfect.

[Old Hack]

I can relate to that - I've bawled my eyes out every day this week on the way to work

It doesn't get better. She's cried badly at all three. Even I got a bit upset at #1. Hard letting them go, especially when it's to people you don't really know that well.

I hope it's a nice nursery and your baby will be fine. It lasted about a week +/- a few days, until they get to know their new 'friends', then they're fine. Wifey once got upset as the eldest jumped out of the car and almost run inot nursery, forgetting to kiss and say bye.

Hope it gets better for you. Without telling you how to suck eggs, their social development races along once they start.

[Gibbon]

It would be nice if society could support the choices of each family without piling on the guilt.

Most of us do the best we can for our kids given our own situations. That's all we can ask for.

Yep.

If somehow you manage to bring up a child to be an independant, law abiding citizen taking their place in society, regardless of academic or other achievement i.e. toilet cleaner or brain surgeon, you have done your job.

If you are bailing them out at 25, then you still have work to do.

[Old Hack]

Yep.

If somehow you manage to bring up a child to be an independant, law abiding citizen taking their place in society, regardless of academic or other achievement i.e. toilet cleaner or brain surgeon, you have done your job.

If you are bailing them out at 25, then you still have work to do.

Bailing them out of jail, then yes, popping a cheque in the post as they've had a lot of stuff go wrong, some unforeseen purchase, are just a bit short, then no.

To be frank, parents will always bail you out, even if you don't need it. 3 years ago, we'd just bought a new car, paid for a holiday, new tv and some other stuff, and mentioned casually, that this was our spending over for the year (as a joke). 2 days later a hamper appeared with a note attached saying just in case we were short. This was to two contractors earning in excess of £100k. Parents feel an obligation to help, regardless, and it will always be the same.