I said it first

[Bagpuss]

Do you really think the majority of the underclass vote?

[hyperD]

The reason why Cameron will not discuss Tax abolition or reduction is not so much for the fear of closing down hospitals as the article notes, altough its interesting to reflect that it did not consider the potential vast savings to be made by closing down other arms of the State other than the Health Service, eg millitary bases ,nuclear weapons etc

The true reason is thanks to NL.there are too many people in the UK who are dependent on unproductive State jobs, they would be horrified if their parasitic way of life was to be challenged by ending the Tax burden and ipso facto would never vote for any party which offered Tax reduction.

A case in point is to consider the sheer number of UK contractors who are now dependent on assignments via Government Projects rather than the Private Sector, which is the only sector which generates genuine wealth and employment.

Unfortunately the current crop of politicans lack the courage to make unpopular but critical decisions, yes there would be a rise in unemployment initially when the State Jobs are cut, but this would be offset over a few years by free enterrpise.

This means a very gloomy outloook for the UK as the State Sector dominates the entire country supported by pandering politicians, meanwhile private enterprise is taxed to unbearable levels.

Well spoken sir! It is exactly why Cameron has to behave like this and not go down the traditional right wing view of tax cuts etc

He needs to win by simply avoiding "unpopular" views. Once he's in I reckon he'll slowly introduce, by stealth, some of the essential trad. right wing actions that are needed to get this country competitive again by dismantling the state and reducing taxes.

[hyperD]

Do you really think the majority of the underclass vote?

That is a very good point and I would answer probably not. It is a chunk of "middle class" that votes liebour as our own Dodgy has pointed out many times. And I think there is a similar amount of people that simply believe everything they are told via the media from this government.

[Bagpuss]

The middle class got Tony in and the working class got Maggie in, there is some irony in that somewhere.

[malvolio]

The middle class got Tony in and the working class got Maggie in, there is some irony in that somewhere.

In both cases, in response to a general perception that the incumbent government ("What Crisis?" Labour and "What Problems?" Major respectively) were a crock of beans and unfit to govern.

Hopefully history will repeat itself - I've no axe to grind for the New Tories, but the sooner we lose the current bunch of useless, mendacious self-improvers, the sooner we can start to get back to reality.

[Mailman]

Malv,

I think you are right in that history will repeat itself BUT I fear the history that will be repeated at the next general election will be the history of the last general election and Labour will be voted back in to power!

Mailman

[wendigo100]

If the Tories get back in at the next election, they might only last one term because Labour will cover and put off the underlying problems they have caused until Cameron's watch. You know how stupid voters are - they'll then blame the Tories and vote the socialists back in to clear it up, and off we go again for another 12 years of New Labour.

So, either the economy has to collapse before the next election, with other fiascos like the tax credit system and immigration coming to a head and leaving no doubt who is to blame, or the Tories would be better off losing the next election. Either way it is a depressing thought, especially when I remember how the UK got back on its feet in the 1980s. The thought of having to go through all that again, but worse!