Very Sad Train News

[Spacecadet]

+1

Quite like the 7.07 from Stockport, on it most weeks. Good service, first have a lot to live up to.

Is that the non-stop service?

I don't think that First can reduce the scheduled trains. What I am concerned about though it the 18.57 declassified relief trains that run on Thursdays and Fridays from Euston to Manchester. They might be operating as an extra service on top of the scheduled times and could be cut

[d000hg]

Cheaper to fly than take the train unless a local journey.

Are you comparing standard class, first class, or standard class flight to first class trains? Because you can get a ticket Durham -> London for £20ish. And flying, you also have to get to the airport which means using a bus/train/taxi and that has to be factored in.

I agree non-discounted ticket prices are a joke, especially 1st class. Some tickets cost nearly a grand. For a train!

[EternalOptimist]

Maybe for you but for us Manc's its the only real option when travelling to central London as there aren't any flights to London City any more.

I drive to Uxbridge, park in the station, then take the tube.
I like having my chariot close by

[ZARDOZ]

What will happen to the Pendilinos?

First will probably replace them with Intercity 125s

[Spacecadet]

What will happen to the Pendilinos?

First will probably replace them with Intercity 125s

I think the rolling stock is all leased from the Government, so first should inherit the Penolinos, they will probably refit them in their own colours and probably reconfigure the interiors at the same time

[BoredBloke]

First are just as bad for the walk on fares. They also (On the TPE route at least) have a habit of declassifying first class at the drop of a hat, not policing first class properly and the trains generally can be a bit grubby. They were also tulip at time keeping, but I'm not sure how much of that is due to network rail and how much is due to firsts crapness.

Agreed..what I was trying to say is the Virgin are as bad as all the others regarding walk on fares and peak time fares. Trains generally in this country are a crock and an bloody expensive one at that.

[mudskipper]

Hehe, did anyone see Bob Crow's breakfast interview?

Threatening industrial action before anything's actually happened, or even been proposed.

[MarillionFan]

Hehe, did anyone see Bob Crow's breakfast interview?

Threatening industrial action before anything's actually happened, or even been proposed.

No. I wish he'd **** off to Cuba though and stay there.

[BoredBloke]

Hehe, did anyone see Bob Crow's breakfast interview?

Threatening industrial action before anything's actually happened, or even been proposed.

The story started doing the rounds at the middle of last week that Virgin would lose the west coast line. On this subject I agee with him. The line is running at near capacity but First have bid £7billion to run it, way above what Virgin bid. If it is at capacity then to increase their profits to pay for the bid they will either have to cut the uneconomic trains (no cheap fares) or ramp up the fares. I suspect the fares increase will be the winner.

[BoredBloke]

I drive to Uxbridge, park in the station, then take the tube.
I like having my chariot close by

When I do this I drive to Beaconsfield to miss out the traffic in uxbridge and the end of the M40/A40 and catch the train from there as it only takes 30mins to get to Marylebone. Oterwise I drive to West Ruisplip and catch the Central Line