David Cameron suggests cutting housing benefit for under-25s

[Robinho]

Thats rubbish, no MD or CEO - BY LAW is allowed to make any decision other than one intended to make money. This is what you miss when you loudmouth how the answer is to privatise everything. No moral decisions other than increasing the margin, or reducing the costs.

There is a middle ground you know?

The only purpose of companies is to make money, competition ensures they stay in line.

[doodab]

Dodgy does seem to have a massive chip on his shoulder about "lefties" to the point where reasoned argument passes him by. I can only hope that if one day he gets to fester in his private sector utopia I don't have to live there with him.

[Robinho]

Lefties don't really have reasoned arguments.

Most of them are based on jealousy and their own greed.

[doodab]

Lefties don't really have reasoned arguments.

Most of them are based on jealousy and their own greed.

Whatever you say. It seem to me that most of the counter arguments we get on here are based on little more than a half arsed understanding of GCSE economics and a dogmatic belief that competition among private sector firms is the best way to achieve anything despite any evidence to the contrary.

As for jealousy and greed, it seems to me to be mostly the right wingers who are all in favour of keeping their cash in their pockets.

[Robinho]

Yes, i'm the one who doesn't understand economics here.

As for jealousy and greed, it seems to me to be mostly the right wingers who are all in favour of keeping their cash in their pockets.

That's the thing, to lefties keeping your own money that you've earnt is greedy, but praying the rich will give you more than you deserve is not.

[darmstadt]

quite, it does'nt matter who you vote for the Germans (except in the UK where the Americans) are in power

FTFY

[Scoobos]

The only purpose of companies is to make money, competition ensures they stay in line.

We wish. Competition is as wooly a term as "Market Forces".

As we reduce regulation and increase "globalisation" we reduce competition - but competition does nothing to "ensure companies stay in line" - regulation does.

Competition does nothing to ensure the oil companies behave, or our high street banks, or our externally operating chemical companies, or our fisheries, or..........

[DodgyAgent]

We wish. Competition is as wooly a term as "Market Forces".

As we reduce regulation and increase "globalisation" we reduce competition - but competition does nothing to "ensure companies stay in line" - regulation does.

Competition does nothing to ensure the oil companies behave, or our high street banks, or our externally operating chemical companies, or our fisheries, or..........

Competition keeps them keen and customer focussed, regulation - properly conceived and properly enforced keeps them honest.

[Robinho]

We wish. Competition is as wooly a term as "Market Forces".

As we reduce regulation and increase "globalisation" we reduce competition - but competition does nothing to "ensure companies stay in line" - regulation does.

How is competition reduced with lower regulations? Ease of business makes barriers to entry lower and increases competition. Same with Globalisation, how does increasing the size of the market reduce competition? - it directly gives you more.

[DodgyAgent]

Dodgy does seem to have a massive chip on his shoulder about "lefties" to the point where reasoned argument passes him by. I can only hope that if one day he gets to fester in his private sector utopia I don't have to live there with him.

I have not said that everything has to be privatised. You have not argued logically any of the points that I have made about benefits. You have simply cited cliches about poverty in order to justify the maintenance of the status quo. The lefties I do not like are the patronising ones who do not give a sh*t about the poor yet they say they do.

There is no connection between your cliches and a solution to a problem (that you do not even accept exists). The left have'nt a creative bone in their witless bodies. They spend their lives sneering at wealth creation whilst filling their own troughs from the spoils of other people efforts.

It is the hypocrisy of people like you that I object to that support a system that is patently wrong and that condemns millions to lives of unemployed squalor. The best you can come up with is that because we argue that public services should be of the highest order and that everyone be encouraged to work that we are "smeared" as wishing to privatise everything "for the sake of preserving right wing integrity".