Retirement age 80

[Doggy Styles]

That's the impression I have. Retirement is gr8 for a while.

I wouldn't mind retiring so I could focus on my music.

Instead of retiring I'm going to get a job on a cruise ship in the Caribbean in a jazz band and play a big white beautifully ornamented jazz guitar, wear a white tuxedo with a dickie bow and drink champagne.

And shag cougars

[BlasterBates]

indeed

[BrilloPad]

It's the only way.

Retirement age 80

It makes alot of sense. Retirement age should be set such that only 40% get to see any.

Only one issue - youth unemployment is bad now. How are we going to create enough jobs?

[petergriffin]

Only one issue - youth unemployment is bad now. How are we going to create enough jobs?

Who cares about jobs? Jobs are for the poor! Real money is created by financial accounting fraud only.

[Mich the Tester]

Who cares about jobs? Jobs are for the poor! Real money is created by financial accounting fraud only.

...and completely unnecessary software 'upgrades' that force customers to rebuild half their systems. More of this please.

[escapeUK]

Trouble is, no one wants to employ someone once they are in their 50s, much less 60s. But fortunately the kids leave school / uni without even basic skills so no competition there.

So we have people that cant stop working because half their money is stolen in taxes to pay for the young people who cant get a job. Its all going to end very very badly.

[SueEllen]

Trouble is, no one wants to employ someone once they are in their 50s, much less 60s. But fortunately the kids leave school / uni without even basic skills so no competition there.

People don't want permanent employees in their 50s or 60s unless they are employing a PA, secretary or cleaner, but they do want the services those with skills in those age groups can provide and will pay for them.

So if you can set yourself up as self-employed in some way you are fine.

So we have people that cant stop working because half their money is stolen in taxes to pay for the young people who cant get a job. Its all going to end very very badly.

And why can't young people get jobs?

If you have ever tried to employ a couple of them or worked along side them you would understand why.

[Doggy Styles]

People don't want permanent employees in their 50s or 60s unless they are employing a PA, secretary or cleaner, but they do want the services those with skills in those age groups can provide and will pay for them. So if you can set yourself up as self-employed in some way you are fine.


And why can't young people get jobs? If you have ever tried to employ a couple of them or worked along side them you would understand why.

Two very good points SueEllen.

On the subject of unemployed youth, where are those with initiative, who can turn their hand to stuff, are willing to work hard, and find an opportunity to make money from it? That's how the economy improves, at grass roots with more people doing things for themselves rather than relying on job adverts.

[minestrone]

Young people are mostly not worth the minimum wage.

About 20 years ago a first year apprentice in the trades was getting about 50 quid a week round here. Who is going to hire an apprentice joiner at 200 something quid a week who can do the square root of feck all.

[SueEllen]

Young people are mostly not worth the minimum wage.

Some are and a lot aren't.

About 20 years ago a first year apprentice in the trades was getting about 50 quid a week round here.

Who is going to hire an apprentice joiner at 200 something quid a week who can do the square root of feck all.

The minimum wage for apprentices and young people is lower.

If you want an apprentice the aim should be to get some 16 year old with some common sense, decent attitude and some manners then train them.

Unfortunately most of the 16 years with the above will not be a NEET until they are much older and then only for a short time as they get on their bikes.