Grim Places to work Part 2 - feel like starting a fight

[northernladuk]

Blah blah blah <yawn>.

Do you want a picture as well or are your cojones big enough?

[MarillionFan]

Do you want a picture as well or are your cojones big enough?

WHS

From what I read of Suitys post he misses the point. Nothing of what we do as contractors is worth a jot of benefit for mankind. It's all bollix. People who build houses can still see those in fifty years. In IT you may as well be pissing in the wind.

Worthless.

[Spacecadet]

This is precisely what I went through on my last gig. The pressure of wanting to shout at someone, or wet the bed or hit someone (in your case) is immeasurable.

You try escalating and it falls on deaf ears. You get told "just do your best", while everyone else above you just shrugs their shoulders.

At some point 1 of 6 things will happen.

1) Those above you will get found out and bollocked or worse.
2) Those above you will get found out and be replaced.
3) Those above you will get found out, try and blame you to cover their arses. You get canned.
4) No one cares, the project gets later and later. No one cares, it's just the culture of the place.
5) No one cares as the project is getting tulip-canned anyways and you just don't know it yet.
6) Those above you are playing political games and want the project to struggle. Usually as they want more budget / resource.

You will notice not any of those items are in your control.

The only thing in your control is to submit a weekly report to the project manager, with a copy sent to a private mail account. This should show what you were supposed to work on, what came up that was unplanned, what obstacles you face in terms of risks and issues, and what you have done about them - usually in terms of escalating and performing regular chases.

Soon enough you're entire working week will become chasing people and writing up these reports. Then when any of the 1-6 options occurs you are belt braces and bollocks and can turn over the evidence.

Even if they don't have weekly meetings, or ask for weekly reports, rise above it and issue one anyway.

That has to be the most depressing thing I've ever read on here!

[suityou01]

I was addressing the point raised by the OP.

HTH BISDI.

[SupremeSpod]

I was addressing the point raised by the OP.

HTH BISDI.

Some are born to lead, others to follow. You appear to have the unnerving knack of placing yourself way out of your depth. In future stick to the shallow end, you're ******* things up for those of us who can do the job.

hth.

[suityou01]

Some are born to lead, others to follow. You appear to have the unnerving knack of placing yourself way out of your depth.

in organisations similar to the one the OP describes.

You're a crap troll.

[MarillionFan]

Some are born to lead, others to follow. You appear to have the unnerving knack of placing yourself way out of your depth. In future stick to the shallow end, you're ******* things up for those of us who can do the job.

hth.

We could put some reins on him.

[darrenb]

From what I read of Suitys post he misses the point. Nothing of what we do as contractors is worth a jot of benefit for mankind. It's all bollix.

Depends where you choose to contract. But it's true, a lot of these larger places don't seem to be Industrial Centres but Containment Centres. Keeps you off the streets basically. As long as you look concerned and stressed, you are fulfilling the point of your contract.

People who build houses can still see those in fifty years.

Not if the Antarctic glaciers melt and London is submerged. Which makes property prices all the more ridiculous.

I predict the capital will be moved to sunny Edinburgh. Not a bad idea to start over really.

[suityou01]

Yup.

I've seen a decade of work end up in the skip.

Most singularly gratifying.

Not.

And for the hard of thinking, I'm not disputing that. In point of fact I stated there was nothing the OP could do about it other than make sure his arse is covered and keep invoicing.

Some really really crap trolling going on here this morning.

[Spacecadet]

Some really really crap trolling going on here this morning.

Maybe its not trolling