Make Bradford British

[wim121]

civility and South Asia of today don't go together. Human life doesn't seem to have had much value till recent decades. If Quebec or Scotland want independence, they get to do the civilised thing and hold a referendum. Not in that tuliphole of south asia - they kill or crush instead.
It wasn't so historically - India was a great civilisation once. And regarding civility, India never in its history ever attack another land (and yet large empires flourished there 'without aggression' before the muslim invaders popped over)

Is it just Pakistan though? I haven't lived there so I couldn't comment, but it seems like India hasn't been too meek and mild in the past?

Now, back to Bradford as that's what we're primarily concerned with here:

Well, I as a minority of one here can vouch for the skilled visa regulations (not counting ICT's).
Here's the crux of the Bradford problem and why I think Indians should be left out of this (our problems with the IT bob ict visas aside):

The Muslim Mirpuris in Britain cultural dislocation

We are now living through the repercussions of those decisions. (Of course, a number of Indian doctors (and yeah, taxi drivers too) also came over at that time and flourished here but not in these numbers)

Just reading through the linked material at the moment but I would probably agree with you somewhat here.

But this could be easily be abused by a political party - bring the masses in and win elections!

Like labour?

I sincerely hope we don't see that day and can do something to not let that happen.

So do I, but in some parts of the UK I can already see it happening. It is sad that some try to live in a segregated manner and only come together to fight one another.

[SueEllen]

Asian in terms of ethnicity has grown to mean Indian sub-continent in the U.K. In the U.S. it means something different. It's just an accident of language and history, although wim seems worried, but unfortunately not in the original sense of the word.

It's also an Aussie and Kiwi thing as well to call "Asian" people who have origins in China, Korea and Japan.

[NotAllThere]

..To be fair to India, it's the Pakis that are the aggressors - their whole world view and reason raison d'être is India or its annihilation or some bizzare unfinished muslim conquest or something. ....

That's certainly the Indian view of the conflict.

[yetanotherbob]

That's certainly the Indian view of the conflict.

Not quite just the Indian view:
Pakistanis are PATHOLOGICAL LIARS: Richard Clarke - YouTube

Even the right minded in Pakistan agree with this.