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    #31
    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    As it happens, if I still lived there then I would probably vote to stay within the Union.
    Of course you would

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      #32
      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
      I firmly believe we are stronger if we all stick together, but let democracy have its say.
      It is what generations of my family have fought to preserve, the right to self determination.
      Agreed. There's strength in numbers. There is absolutely no argument there. It is irrefutable. Members of my own family have fallen protecting democracy.

      What happens to the flock however when not everyone wants to fly in the same direction? What happens when our once core manufacturing industry the north prided itself on is replaced by the need for unrealistic growth and growth and some more growth through city greed?

      Devolution happens. And for the first time in in 300 years people are being offered an alternative direction to fly. One that does not involve war mongering and gambling whilst promoting steady growth.
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #33
        Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
        What happens to the flock however when not everyone wants to fly in the same direction?
        Bonsoir - ici nous avons les diagrammes modernes d'un mouton anglo-français ... maintenant ... baa-aa, baa-aa... nous avons, dans la tête, le cabinc. Ici, on se trouve le petit capitaine Anglais, Monsieur Trubshawe

        “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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          #34
          Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
          Agreed. There's strength in numbers. There is absolutely no argument there. It is irrefutable. Members of my own family have fallen protecting democracy.

          What happens to the flock however when not everyone wants to fly in the same direction? What happens when our once core manufacturing industry the north prided itself on is replaced by the need for unrealistic growth and growth and some more growth through city greed?

          Devolution happens. And for the first time in in 300 years people are being offered an alternative direction to fly. One that does not involve war mongering and gambling whilst promoting steady growth.
          Were they American?

          Just asking like, because the second world war was fought to save the world from the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks, not to protect "Democracy" which has never been the political system du jour within the United Kingdom.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Churchill View Post
            Were they American?

            Just asking like, because the second world war was fought to save the world from the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks, not to protect "Democracy" which has never been the political system du jour within the United Kingdom.
            The war before that one.
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              #36
              Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
              The war before that one.
              So your lot were fighting to protect Democracy while the rest were fighting for "King and Country" - the Constitutional Monarchy.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Churchill View Post
                So your lot were fighting to protect Democracy while the rest were fighting for "King and Country" - the Constitutional Monarchy.
                Ja something like that.
                "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Churchill View Post
                  Were they American?

                  Just asking like, because the second world war was fought to save the world from the Nazi's and the Bolsheviks, not to protect "Democracy" which has never been the political system du jour within the United Kingdom.
                  So how successful was WWII -it started as a guarantee for Poland's independence but ended up with Nazi rule being replaced by Stalin
                  Would the panel agree that given this outcome, 55 million dead was hardly a price worth paying?
                  How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Troll View Post
                    So how successful was WWII -it started as a guarantee for Poland's independence but ended up with Nazi rule being replaced by Stalin
                    Would the panel agree that given this outcome, 55 million dead was hardly a price worth paying?
                    There's still 1 missing from that number.
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Troll View Post
                      So how successful was WWII?
                      Do you speak German?
                      We know you are fluent in bollocks.

                      “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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