Too expensive to manufacture electronics in UK (RaspberryPi)

[DodgyAgent]

We need to be more competitive or offer better incentives for those bringing jobs to Britain

what does that mean?

[Paddy]

Maybe they should charge "import duty" on non EU workers, after all they are component parts or imported assets.

and "import duty" on offshore call centres.

[The Spartan]

It means that we're not currently attracting investment, as we're not cheap enough. I read that other countries are often put off by the fact that we don't offer good incentives to set up business here etc

[DodgyAgent]

and "import duty" on offshore call centres.

Oh dear - a control freak

[DodgyAgent]

It means that we're not currently attracting investment, as we're not cheap enough. I read that other countries are often put off by the fact that we don't offer good incentives to set up business here etc

So what does "attracting investment" mean? How?

[Arturo Bassick]

Oh dear - a control freak

Explain why you think that is control freak?

I agree with him.

It seems wrong that UK companies have to compete against offshore service providers who are bound to be cheaper. UK industry can not hope to win.
Particularly when the consumer can not go offshore for the service provided.

Like it or not we have strict labour laws in the UK (and Europe) and it is incredible that large corporations can dodge these by simply using an off shore service.

[NickFitz]

Explain why you think that is control freak?

I agree with him.

It seems wrong that UK companies have to compete against offshore service providers who are bound to be cheaper. UK industry can not hope to win.
Particularly when the consumer can not go offshore for the service provided.

Like it or not we have strict labour laws in the UK (and Europe) and it is incredible that large corporations can dodge these by simply using an off shore service.

This isn't a case of "providing a service". It's about manufacturing - actually making stuff, real stuff you can hit with a hammer.

Creating the infrastructure for real industries like this is simply not going to happen in this day and age. Our manufacturing industries have been systematically destroyed by politicians, starting thirty years ago.

The best this country can manage nowadays is providing a few PR types to lie about how wonderful it is that this happened.

[The Spartan]

So what does "attracting investment" mean? How?

Making it easier to come here and setup for one,
Regulation, business taxation, personal taxation, and planning and infrastructure aren't the greatest and need to be looked at.

Take IR35 for example it's specifically aimed at IT contractor's rather than everyone, there are plenty of tradesmen out there that earn a fair few bucks but they don't seem to get targeted.

[DimPrawn]

Making it easier to come here and setup for one,
Regulation, business taxation, personal taxation, and planning and infrastructure aren't the greatest and need to be looked at.

Take IR35 for example it's specifically aimed at IT contractor's rather than everyone, there are plenty of tradesmen out there that earn a fair few bucks but they don't seem to get targeted.

A good example are DHL delivery drivers. They are all self employed, but have to drive their own van painted with DHL on it, wear a DHL uniform and only deliver parcels for DHL exactly where and when DHL tell them too. But they are not employers, oh good good no.

[TestMangler]

A good example are DHL delivery drivers. They are all self employed, but have to drive their own van painted with DHL on it, wear a DHL uniform and only deliver parcels for DHL exactly where and when DHL tell them too. But they are not employers, oh good good no.

Footballers also exempt from IR35. Would be nice if one refused to play at match time due to being 'unavailable' and refused to wear the same clobber as the other guys in the 'team'