Good old chip and pin

[ASB]

Are you sure you don't mean Swipe and PIN? The cards have a chip in them but it is not used. The Chip hole being taped over and people just swiping.

I do know of a petrol station that uses the chip, but you have to hand the card over and they use a non-standard reader. IIRC they're a Shell.

It could well be Proton. This is the low value electronic purse system which is used (quite widely in Europe) for comparatively low value rapid transactions.

[threaded]

No, definitely no taping over chips, or swiping. Card was pushed into machine, and then PIN entered. I used it at e.g. Fakta, Innovation, Matas. You can see I had a really exciting weekend

Just asked the payments peeps here. I'm told in some shops they use the chip if there is a higher incidence of fraud and they don't mind the extra delay. Have to say I've only noticed the one petrol station using it. Learn something everyday...

[Joe Black]

No, not Proton, though the card can be used for that as well, as I'm not keen on the idea of putting real money on a piece of plastic after the first card I was issued went belly up and crashed every cashpoint I put it into.

This is the one apparently:

[Swamp Thing]

Just asked the payments peeps here. I'm told in some shops they use the chip if there is a higher incidence of fraud and they don't mind the extra delay. Have to say I've only noticed the one petrol station using it. Learn something everyday...

Fraud: it's a Fakta-life.
Sorry, I'm so bored right now it's hard not to be silly.

[ASB]

No, not Proton, though the card can be used for that as well, as I'm not keen on the idea of putting real money on a piece of plastic after the first card I was issued went belly up and crashed every cashpoint I put it into.

I must admit I don't really see the need for electronic purse. I did a lot of work on it years ago in Portugal when SIBS (effectively the state controlled acquirer) would only certify software with EFT capability that also did PMB (electronic purse). The only time it ever got used was during certification since none of my customers would accept PMB.

I still have a card. The only way you could get a cup of tea or similar in SIBS offices was with one of these cards.