• Visitors can check out the Forum FAQ by clicking this link. You have to register before you can post: click the REGISTER link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. View our Forum Privacy Policy.
  • Want to receive the latest contracting news and advice straight to your inbox? Sign up to the ContractorUK newsletter here. Every sign up will also be entered into a draw to WIN £100 Amazon vouchers!

France says Britain should lose its AAA rating

Collapse
X
  •  
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    France says Britain should lose its AAA rating

    What's this all about then?

    Is it true [bold]?

    Bank of France governor Christian Noyer: the UK had a bigger deficit than France and deserved to lose its triple A status first. Photograph: Roslan Rahman/EPA
    3.10pm: The claim from French central bank governor Christian Noyer that Britain should lose its AAA credit rating before France is dominating the headlines today.

    Officially, the UK government is being quite restrained. Here's the response from David Cameron's official spokesman:

    We have put in place a credible plan for dealing with our deficit and the credibility of that plan can be seen in what has happened to bond yields in this country.

    Looking at the Reuters terminal, UK ten-year government bonds are trading at a yield (effectively the interest rate) of 2.119%. France's 10-year bonds are changing hands for around 3.07%. That implies that the French government would have to agree to significantly higher repayments when selling its debt.
    Amid speculation that Standard & Poor's is gearing up for a downgrade of France's top credit rating, the head of the Bank of France Christian Noyer said today there is no justification for that. Controversially, he suggested that Britain's AAA rating should be downgraded first.

    In an interview with local newspaper Le Telegramme de Brest, Noyer, a member of the ECB's governing council, also questioned whether the use of ratings agencies to guide investors was still valid.

    In the arguments they [ratings agencies] present, there are more political arguments than economic ones.

    The downgrade does not appear to me to be justified when considering economic fundamentals. Otherwise, they should start by downgrading Britain which has more deficits, as much debt, more inflation, less growth than us and where credit is slumping.

    Noyer was also unhappy about critical comments from ratings agencies following last week's EU summit in Brussels. He said such comments had weakened positive sentiment in the markets following the agreement to draft a new treaty for deeper integration in the euro zone.

    Frankly, the agencies have become incomprehensible and irrational. They threaten even when states have taken strong and positive decisions. One could think that the use of agencies to guide investors is no longer valid.

    IMF's Lagarde warns of return to Great Depression | Business | guardian.co.uk
    Last edited by scooterscot; 15 December 2011, 21:55.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

    #2
    Ughhhh damn froggies ..... And they wonder why people hate them!

    Comment


      #3
      I expect our time will come, as he too suggests by saying first.

      Comment


        #4
        Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
        What's this all about then?
        This is about Merkozys re-election campaign. Nothing more to see here, move along.

        Whether we are AAA, AA+ or whatever is irrelevant. What only matters is we can never be called Beef Eating Surrender Monkeys.

        Comment


          #5
          French leaders declare a war of words on Britain

          Originally posted by moorfield View Post
          This is about Merkozys re-election campaign. Nothing more to see here, move along.
          Anything else I can do to protect my family from the French? I knew returning to the UK this weekend would be risky because of the wind but did not expect this!!!

          French leaders declare a war of words on Britain - Telegraph

          Not a good headline from our very neighbours. Is DC really willing to fallout with our neighbours and drive us to protectionism to protect the banks?
          Last edited by scooterscot; 15 December 2011, 22:49.
          "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by moorfield View Post
            Whether we are AAA, AA+ or whatever is irrelevant. What only matters is we can never be called Beef Eating Surrender Monkeys.
            Shouldnt that be Horse Eating Surrender Monkeys?

            I fail to see the relevance either, when nearly everyone in Europe is looking to a similar fate .....

            Comment


              #7
              The French say a lot of things in our general direction. Always have and always will.

              They seem to hate us because, when push comes to shove in major international events, we end up performing better than them.

              And we usually have to rescue them.

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by Doggy Styles View Post
                And we usually have to rescue them.


                Maybe if Britain was nice to the French they would not have sent force to help the Patriots to secure independence in US of A.

                oh btw, in the last two world wars both France and Britain were saved by Russia and Soviet Union who took on the bulk of losses.

                Comment


                  #9
                  You'd think that the French would have learnt that every time they collaborate with the Germans it ends in tears.
                  Guy Fawkes - "The last man to enter Parliament with honourable intentions."

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Originally posted by Alf W View Post
                    You'd think that the French would have learnt that every time they collaborate with the Germans it ends in tears.
                    And how many times did the French "collaborate" with the Germans?

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    X