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Public v Private Sector - Making the transition

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    #21
    I've found that anyone with any urgency or the ability to make a decision without committee within the Pub-S left and joined the Pri-S either during or shortly after my time on the project. Those who were career civil servants were only interested in their next yearly review score and not being held accountable for any decisions.

    Although my time in the various government depts was as a body-shopped consultant and not a contractor, it was pretty much the samething without any the financial benefits. After 12 months I certainly lost the will to live. The only way it works is for any project to be entirely outsourced so day-2-day decisions are out of the hands or you treat the gig as an oppertunity to pursue plan-b or do some CBT / certification revision etc.
    Anti-bedwetting advice

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      #22
      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
      What makes practice 'best' and who defines it?

      Shouldn't it be called 'the practice that worked OK for somebody somewhere'?
      Anything that sounds like a buzz word or something that google or FB are using lol

      That's what generally happens people latch onto new concepts that sound great in theory but in practice don't quite work.
      In Scooter we trust

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        #23
        Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
        Anything that sounds like a buzz word or something that google or FB are using lol

        That's what generally happens people latch onto new concepts that sound great in theory but in practice don't quite work.
        So the best idea for a plan B is to invent a new 'best practice', sell the book, sell the franchise to lots of insultants and then sod off to a tropical island with the money before someone notices it doesn't work.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #24
          Never worked in public sector but I seem to come across more and more people in private sector who have some qualifications (Prince2, ITIL etc) who spout best practice but have no actual idea how to relate it to real world situations.

          Is this common or am I just unlucky?

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            #25
            Originally posted by original PM View Post
            Never worked in public sector but I seem to come across more and more people in private sector who have some qualifications (Prince2, ITIL etc) who spout best practice but have no actual idea how to relate it to real world situations.

            Is this common or am I just unlucky?
            Very common indeed.
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              Very common indeed.
              Makes me feel better!

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                #27
                ITIL is used a lot in government but anything like ITIL, PRINCE2, ISEB etc will get you noticed but itr doesn't necessarily mean you can do the job. I know plenty of testers who have the advanced certs in testing yet due to my experience I'm a fair way ahead of them fortunately
                In Scooter we trust

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                  So the best idea for a plan B is to invent a new 'best practice', sell the book, sell the franchise to lots of insultants and then sod off to a tropical island with the money before someone notices it doesn't work.
                  I recall a certain public sector project which took hook line and sinker on some modular methodology or other.

                  The resulting project ran like a dog.
                  Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
                    ITIL is used a lot in government but anything like ITIL, PRINCE2, ISEB etc will get you noticed but itr doesn't necessarily mean you can do the job. I know plenty of testers who have the advanced certs in testing yet due to my experience I'm a fair way ahead of them fortunately
                    The certificates have one purpose; to get your CV past the numpties, i.e. impress ignorant, promoted beyond their ability managers with a way of covering their arses if you f**k up, as in 'I hired a guy with all the best papers so it isn't my fault'.
                    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                      The certificates have one purpose; to get your CV past the numpties, i.e. impress ignorant, promoted beyond their ability managers with a way of covering their arses if you f**k up, as in 'I hired a guy with all the best papers so it isn't my fault'.
                      Mich I couldn't agree more I find the whole thing very frustrating and so annoying. Oh let's make this guy senior because he's got the advanced certification
                      In Scooter we trust

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