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Public v Private Sector - Making the transition

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    #11
    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    I was bored out of my mind in my last public sector gig, as well as sick to death of turgid civil servants who were resistant to any kind of change whatsoever. None of the people I worked with would last 5 minutes in current clientco.
    I agree, having left the civil service over 3 years ago you can clearly see why people stay there and that is the fact that very few would be able to make it if they left
    In Scooter we trust

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Spartan View Post
      I agree, having left the civil service over 3 years ago you can clearly see why people stay there and that is the fact that very few would be able to make it if they left
      It's not even to do with competence; I've seen plenty of enthousiastic idiots in private sector who do fine, and I've seen very clever people in public sector who wouldn't last in private sector because they won't even countenance a change to their daily routine. I'd rather employ a fool who's enthousiastic to learn and prepared to put in the effort to become a non-fool.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #13
        I always end up hating public sector gigs.

        I don't mind working slowly to fit in with their minimal production schedule, it is putting up with their crazy ways to do the easiest of tasks. I like to be efficient even if I have weeks to do a minor task.

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          #14
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          I always end up hating public sector gigs.

          I don't mind working slowly to fit in with their minimal production schedule, it is putting up with their crazy ways to do the easiest of tasks. I like to be efficient even if I have weeks to do a minor task.
          I always end up hating all my gigs, but then I've only ever been employed by or contracting with NHS organisations.

          It's got better now that I've got to grips with no direction and control. I just do things my own way now. Their processes are rubbish so I introduce my own for projects I work on. It's great, now. I decide that we'll gather some requirements and they think I'm a frackin' genius.

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            #15
            Once and only once did a gig in the public sector years ago. Came out thinking what a bunch of a$r% covering gits. Knowledge lacking, it was awful. Never again.
            "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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              #16
              Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
              I flit between the two - done local and central government as well as large-scale private sector.

              I like public sector - years of work, no deliverables, taking significantly more out of the tax system than I put in
              A better reason for a minimal state you will never see
              "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "


              Thomas Jefferson

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                #17
                Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                Once and only once did a gig in the public sector years ago. Came out thinking what a bunch of a$r% covering gits. Knowledge lacking, it was awful. Never again.
                Yet they wonder why projects go over budget and get delivered late
                In Scooter we trust

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                  Once and only once did a gig in the public sector years ago. Came out thinking what a bunch of a$r% covering gits. Knowledge lacking, it was awful. Never again.
                  I did 2 public sector stints, one in UK which I quit early and one for 3 months in Australia. This statement holds true and backs up the comment about "Because its best practice" This comment will go unchallenged in public sector because it covers people @rses. In private sector that will be challenged, and weighed up against the cost and a balance between the risks and cost is made. So people have to be rprepared to justify it. Things are normally run much much better and leaner in private sector. I personally would never do a public sector gig again, too frustrating for somebody who wants to deliver decent work

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                    #19
                    I've contracted almost entirely in the Public Sector and, yes, there are differences in the approach to delivery. I've been involved in projects where 'best practice' was applied religiously and others where I could hardly believe that that ANY organisation, public or private, could operate in such an unprofessional and chaotic way.

                    Which would I rather work on? Give me best practice every time.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bless 'em all View Post
                      I've contracted almost entirely in the Public Sector and, yes, there are differences in the approach to delivery. I've been involved in projects where 'best practice' was applied religiously and others where I could hardly believe that that ANY organisation, public or private, could operate in such an unprofessional and chaotic way.

                      Which would I rather work on? Give me best practice every time.
                      What makes practice 'best' and who defines it?

                      Shouldn't it be called 'the practice that worked OK for somebody somewhere'?
                      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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