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There is actually a parallel, I think everyone lost something in the last crash, stocks went way down. The same thing will happen if the public sector costs aren´t reigned in and we end up like Greece. In fact it´ll be far worse. Pension liabilities are far higher than the banking losses.Originally posted by Freamon View PostI'm alright JackComment
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George Monbiot really is a toxic bore - I can see why you would feel an attraction to his material.Originally posted by pjclarkeYou won't be alerting anyone to anything with a mouthful of mixed seeds.Comment
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Yeah, he attracts a lot of abuse like that, very few of the abusers choose to engage with his arguments, though......My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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Clarkson and his followers are just reacting and providing a counterpoint to the often lunatic behaviour of the extreme left. It's not particularly surprising.Originally posted by pjclarke
Sensible people don't tend to be anywhere near either Clarkson or Mobiot on the political spectrum, rather they'll be quite a lot closer to the middle."A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s the s*** that happens while you’re waiting for moments that never come." -- Lester FreamonComment
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What if I told you insane was working fifty hours a week in some office for fifty years at the end of which they tell you to piss off; ending up in some retirement village hoping to die before suffering the indignity of trying to make it to the toilet on time? Wouldn't you consider that to be insane?Originally posted by Wilmslow View PostComment
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You're back!Originally posted by AtW View Post"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. "
Thomas JeffersonComment
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Please. The guy's only borderline sane. Witness his guilt-ridden hand-wringing over the purchase of his Renault, or his hissing rage against aviation, only to admit that he indeed still takes flights to promote his books. From the "hissing rage" link:Originally posted by pjclarke View Post
Okay, so somehow my flight to Portugal is denying some kid in Angola a glass of clean drinking water. Whatever you say, man. Monbiot's probably farming a bumper crop of stomach ulcers with his pointless, impotent angst and guilt....your luxury is depriving other people of their necessities
George in 2007:
Does that include your job at the Guardian, George?I hope that the recession now being forecast by some economists materialises. I recognise that recession causes hardship. Like everyone I am aware that it would cause some people to lose their jobs and homes.
The Moonbat's plan to restructure society is a hoot:
Every citizen is given a free annual quota of carbon dioxide. He or she spends it by buying gas and electricity, petrol and train and plane tickets. If they run out, they must buy the rest from someone who has used less than his or her quota.
You won't be alerting anyone to anything with a mouthful of mixed seeds.Comment
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I thought we had got rid of all these humorless self righteous socialists. The one thing I like about Clarkson is that he rips these people apart.Originally posted by pjclarkeLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Monbiot has been writing for over two decades, and has occasionally written some naive and foolish things, however, from your linked article Monbiot said, in 2007
And your link 'proving' hypocrisy was to a 2003 article, so your timeline is screwed. In fact he went on a speaking tour in Canada to erm, to campaign against climate change which seems to be the only time he has broken his self-imposed ban.The only reason for which I will fly is to campaign on climate change.
And that proposal is known as Tradable Energy Quotas (TEQ). It is nothing to do with social engineering, rather one possible response to the twin challenges of Peak Oil and Climate Change. You may find it a hoot, however it was given serious study by an all-party Parliamentary Committee, who concluded
It won't happen. My prediction is that neither this scheme, nor the alternative fast tracks to a low-carbon economy that the science tells us are needed will be adopted, partially due to the impact the noise from the denial machine has had on public perceptions. I also fear that with hindsight we will come to regret this inactivity.TEQs could be the game-changer, both allowing national leaders to promise substantial reductions in fossil-fuel dependency with confidence that they will actually happen, and emboldening them to throw down the powerful challenge: “we are acting, so must you”.
It is now intensely urgent that nations should have an instrument, available and proven, which is capable of both reducing carbon emissions and rationing scarce fuel. The system capable of delivering that is TEQs.Last edited by pjclarke; 5 December 2011, 01:11.My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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