UK will ultimately join euro says Lord Heseltine

[BlasterBates]

If the UK were to leave the EU, the prime minister to do it would make a big fanfare, and then nothing would change. The only difference is that when they introduce all the EU legislation they just say it was as a result of their "free trade" negotiations. I see this in Switzerland there are just as many EU sceptics in Switzerland railing against the Swiss EU legislation as there are in the UK. The reason why Switzerland has to do it is to make sure they sell their stuff to Europe.

...and what is the main benefit of the one thing the Swiss have opted out, the EU agricultural policy? you pay 3 times the price for basic food stuffs at the supermarket, and a small fraction of the Swiss get huge subsidies from the Swiss government, even after you've paid an extortinate amount for the stuff they produce.

[wobbegong]

Will it be called the Worldo? Or the Eartho? Or perhaps the Mondo?

. . . or the Yuan?

[doodab]

A lot of what is blamed on the EU, in particular the human rights stuff, is actually due to the council of Europe, which is a different organisation altogether.

[DodgyAgent]

That's complete and utter nonsense, they have even signed up to "Schengen", i.e. no passport control now at the borders, which the UK doesn't have, and any EU citizen can just go and live there. Switzerland is in all but name in the EU. They've implemented virtually everything. They've even pegged their currency to the Euro and are spending billions maintaining that peg, which makes a mockery of the argument they save money because they don't have to contribute to proppping up the Euro....they do! Like the UK they have certain exceptions such as protection on their agriculture.

I'm all in favour of having a debate about Europe, it's just sceptics don't understand how Europe works or how countries outside the EU relate to it.

Sometimes I think BB that you are a bit of a dopey idiot. The whole point of where the sceptics are coming from is laid bare by the Swiss. That point is that Switzerland can do whatever it likes with its currency. Right now pegging it to the Euro means that it will not become too expensive and therefore price Switzerland out of export markets. You and the other pro euro fanatics will pick up any thread that suits your pro euro agenda. Switzerland by preserving its independence can take or leave the Euro or any other currency for that matter when it suits them.

[Churchill]

Sometimes I think BB that you are a bit of a dopey idiot. The whole point of where the sceptics are coming from is laid bare by the Swiss. That point is that Switzerland can do whatever it likes with its currency. Right now pegging it to the Euro means that it will not become too expensive and therefore price Switzerland out of export markets. You and the other pro euro fanatics will pick up any thread that suits your pro euro agenda. Switzerland by preserving its independence can take or leave the Euro or any other currency for that matter when it suits them.

Having hundreds of tonnes of :nazi: Gold helps...

[petergriffin]

Will it be called the Worldo? Or the Eartho? Or perhaps the Mondo?

It will be the Deutsche Mark, only with the effigy of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, the greatest sovereign Germany has ever had.

[Jeff Maginty]

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[BrilloPad]

There is a reason why Jesus threw the money-lenders out of the temple. He also saved an alleged prostitute from stoning. Top bloke he was!!

He said "Let he who hath not sinned cast the first stone" And a woman stepped from the crowd and hurled a stone at the brass. And Jesus said "Mother please go home."

[TimberWolf]

There is a reason why Jesus threw the money-lenders out of the temple. He also saved an alleged prostitute from stoning. Top bloke he was!!

Okay, I can believe that the Earth was created 4000 years or so ago in 6 days, but I'm having trouble believing he could throw out money lenders without some serious backup.