Time for a new British (or English) identity

[Le Rosbif]

Now I know you're insane. France has lived beyond her means for years. The last balanced budget was 1975 (Uk 1997).
Anyone can have nice things when they borrow the money for it.
Now it's time to pay.

exactly

[Mich the Tester]

Well according to the far right parties of Europe, this will be when the Muslims breed so much they become majorities in Europe.
This idea is of course negated by the reality that is second/third generation immigrants of whatever nationality usually have similar birth rates to the native population.
And also by the rather srtartling fact that birth rates are reducing all over the world.
But then stupid people were never able to do maths.

Right here in NL the people from 2nd generation and 3rd generation immigrant families, especially Muslims, have lower birth rates than the non-immigrant population because they tend to live in cities; urban populations have lower birth rates than rural populations, regardless of culture or religion. It's not just maths; it's demography, and I know a bit about that.

Birth rates around the world are falling because of urbanisation and partly because of increased survival rates among children. There's simply less need for having lots of kids.

[Le Rosbif]

Well, no, the French transport workers have this nasty habit of going on strike every summer, so I just bypass the place really.

yep - another good idea: prevent the fookers to go on strike during public holidays

[Mich the Tester]

you should spend your next holidays in Marseille. town center.
or Brussels - town center
or Paris - suburb

Nah - stay where you are - stay ignorant

and when the riots will be at your door, get on your knees and shout "why, oh why"?

Brussels town centre? What's wrong with that? Nice place, very smart, most of it.

[Mich the Tester]

yep - another good idea: prevent the fookers to go on strike during public holidays

How?

[Le Rosbif]

Right here in NL the people from 2nd generation and 3rd generation immigrant families, especially Muslims, have lower birth rates than the non-immigrant population because they tend to live in cities; urban populations have lower birth rates than rural populations, regardless of culture or religion. It's not just maths; it's demography, and I know a bit about that.

Birth rates around the world are falling because of urbanisation and partly because of increased survival rates among children. There's simply less need for having lots of kids.

your point would only be valid if we were not letting 100s of thousand getting in every year.

[Mich the Tester]

and when the riots will be at your door, get on your knees and shout "why, oh why"?

Erm Sasguru lives in London; the riots were probably quite nearby. My parents live just outside Birmingham and witnessed some of the riots; it was a bunch of chavs, regardless of 'culture'.

[Le Rosbif]

How?

using the thingy used by states to enforce ideas...

the LAW

[Arturo Bassick]

Brussels town centre? What's wrong with that? Nice place, very smart, most of it.

Grand Place maybe, but step outside it late at night and you will get mugged by a couple of Turks. Rue Ansbach, Midi and Scharbeek are well dodgy.

[Mich the Tester]

your point would only be valid if we were not letting 100s of thousand getting in every year.

WHO is letting in HOW MANY people from WHERE?

Facts please, real facts backed up by a proper statistical analysis of the demographics of immigration into Europe over last, ooh, 30 years. Please.