Dale Farm

[russell]

What the fook would the UN know? According to Basildon Council the "travellers" have been given a list of legal sites with space available - therefore they have no reason not to fook off from their illegal site. They've had 10 years to find a place, all the time knowing they were in criminal breach of planning law.

Breaching planning law eh, get the tazers out!

[Spacecadet]

Breaching planning law eh, get the tazers out!

It's not the planning breach they will be tazered for

[Paddy]

What the fook would the UN know? According to Basildon Council the "travellers" have been given a list of legal sites with space available - therefore they have no reason not to fook off from their illegal site. They've had 10 years to find a place, all the time knowing they were in criminal breach of planning law.

A list of sites does not mean anything. I could give you a list of NHS dentists but you won’t get treated.

Get you facts right.

It is not a criminal breach of planning law.

There is no legal requirement other than the building to be removed.
Ie. It would be unlawful to eject the residents.
The same area of green belt land has already be build upon by various industrial units and the council did not enforce planning regulations.
The eviction is being pushed by some well to do toffee nosed residents with connections in the council.

[Incognito]

Oh those poor 'travellers' with no place to goto.

Claims by travellers at the illegal encampment at Dale Farm that they have nowhere to go were further undermined yesterday with the revelation that they own valuable property in Ireland.

The travellers told Britain’s highest ranking planning inspector that if evicted, sick children and immobile old people would be forced to endure makeshift roadside camps. But what the volumes of applications and appeal papers did not make clear was that Anne Sheridan, Helen Quilligan and no doubt the majority of their five other co-applicants demanding to ignore British planning laws were not the homeless nomads they claimed to be.

An investigation by the Daily Mail can reveal that Miss Sheridan, the lead applicant in the December 2006 attempt to maintain seven caravans on the illegal site near Basildon in Essex, is the registered owner of a £100,000 bungalow in the village of Rathkeale, County Limerick, in the west of Ireland.

This follows the news earlier this week that sometime Dale Farm resident and property developer Michael Quilligan is behind a multi-million pound 33-home development just outside the village, which is currently under construction.

Helen Quilligan, far from being on the point of destitution, is the registered owner of a smart £150,000 terraced house in the same village – as well as two luxury three-bedroom properties in the new development project.

Documents held by Limerick County Council show the women are registered to vote in local, national and European elections. Yesterday one Rathkeale resident said: ‘That is Helen Quilligan’s house but she is not there now.

‘She lives overseas with her husband and children. She won’t be back for months.’

Like many of the Irish travellers who make up the 90 families living at the Dale Farm site – some legally and some illegally – the women own one or more properties in the sleepy, rural town which only comes alive at Christmas when they return to get married and christened.

Whole streets of houses are locked up with steel grilles and boarded up with wooden frames and gates locked with chains for as many as 11 months of the year while the families live in their state of the art caravans in England.

According to papers held by Limerick County Council, Helen Quilligan’s two new properties are worth up to £400,000. But Dale Farm spokesman Richard Sheridan maintained that no residents of the illegal site in Essex owned properties in Rathkeale.

Another wealthy traveller linked to Dale Farm, Richard O’Brien, is developing 44 houses near Rathkeale, called the Castle Park estate.And a third housing estate is being built by a member of the Sheridan clan who is closely linked to the Essex site.

An elderly Dale Farm resident has been given a final chance to challenge the clearance. Mary Flynn is renewing her application at a court hearing on Monday – the day the evictions are due to begin.

Dale Farm eviction: Travellers' homes are back in Ireland, they will NOT be 'homeless' | Mail Online

[Incognito]

A 33-unit housing estate in County Limerick is the property of one of the Irish Travelers living on the illegal Dale Farm halting site in Britain.

Michael Quilligan holds the title on a “ghost estate” in Rathkeale, a town with a large Traveler population. It is believed that his properties are worth up to $37 million. This estate was one of the few where construction continued after the collapse of the property market. It is believed that they detached houses could sell for $550,619 (€400,000) each. Construction began in 2004.

Construction on the estate is slowly continuing. Although half of the houses are completed the Irish Independent reported that it is not known if any have been sold. Originally there had been planning permission for 33 homes granted in 2005. Last year an application was made for the construction to continue. Permission was granted and construction has slowly continued.

Although the local community was unwilling to talk about the Dale Farm Traveler’s case the Irish Independent found that the owner was being backed by Travelers in the community and other silent investors across Europe. At Dale Farm in Essex over 400 people face eviction next week. The six acre site has built roads and electricity. Neighbors have said that over the years it has been turned into the biggest halting site in Europe.

Richard Sheridan the president of the UK Gypsy Council has said that the families at Dale Farm would not be returning to Limerick if the eviction is carried out. The local, Basildon Council, with the backing from British Prime Minister David Cameron, has said that the eviction will go ahead.

The Council have also discovered that the Travelers were excepting housing welfare payments in Essex but were using this money to pay for this housing Limerick.

Irish Traveler at center of Dale Farm eviction owns Limerick

[KentPhilip]

Sky news has a few of them on a tower made of scaffolding. Anyone got a hack-saw?

[Incognito]

The eviction is being pushed by some well to do toffee nosed residents with connections in the council.

Paddy it's bleeding hearts like you that allow our rights to be abused. Human Rights should mean something, they shouldn't be a shield for the greedy individual or workshy layabout to use to justify their continuing abuse of the system.

[Peoplesoft bloke]

A list of sites does not mean anything. I could give you a list of NHS dentists but you won’t get treated.

Get you facts right.

It is not a criminal breach of planning law.

There is no legal requirement other than the building to be removed.
Ie. It would be unlawful to eject the residents.
The same area of green belt land has already be build upon by various industrial units and the council did not enforce planning regulations.
The eviction is being pushed by some well to do toffee nosed residents with connections in the council.

And supported by this "toffee nosed resident" on the basis that there is a law there that has been blatently broken for ten years. If this isn't enforced (and it should be) there will be no point in planning law at all and we can all buy land off cash-strapped famers and build what we like where we like.

You are right that the Council should have acted sooner - but according to you they are only acting now because of "connections" - either they need to sort it out or they don't - you can't have it both ways.

And you are deliberately misunderstanding the stuff about the list of sites - this is a list of sites WITH AVAILABLE PITCHES, not just a list - to use your dentist comparison, that would be NHS dentists WHO ARE ACCEPTING NEW PATIENTS TODAY - do you get it now?

[russell]

Paddy it's bleeding hearts like you that allow our rights to be abused. Human Rights should mean something, they shouldn't be a shield for the greedy individual or workshy layabout to use to justify their continuing abuse of the system.

Are you quoting that from a high ranking Nazi during the Holocaust?

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Paddy it's bleeding hearts like you that allow our rights to be abused. Human Rights should mean something, they shouldn't be a shield for the greedy individual or workshy layabout to use to justify their continuing abuse of the system.

Holy caramaba - I never thought this would happen (I am usually the target of these accusations) but I agree with Incognito.