TVR laying off half of it's staff

[AtW]

If the Noble is "Fast as Hell", what's does that make this...

Its quoted to have 3 seconds from 0-60 vs less than 3.5 seconds for M15, the price different is something 12-15 times, this makes Bugatti a car that is confined strinctly to be shown in movies or kept in well locked garages.

That's right - Noble is on the road giving real 3.5 sec and I'd like to see chances of it racing with Bugatti.

[hyperD]

If the Noble is "Fast as Hell", what's does that make this...

Sadly, unaffordable.

But a beautiful car nonetheless!

[AtW]

But a beautiful car nonetheless!

So, if there was a car looking just like bugatti but with Ssang Yung badge and no 16-cylinder sillyness, with price tag of £15k, would you still want it?

[hyperD]

Maybe. But one of the reasons I like cars, let's say TVR as an example, is not just looks but the raw feel, the noise, the smell of leather and glue, the way the car makes heads turn, the ride and sometimes the rough around the edges feel and the sheer noise, thrills and power when you punch it.

Bit like owning the Millenium Falcon - it can make the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs - but only sometimes.

[AtW]

Bit like owning the Millenium Falcon

Millenium Falcon was infinitely more useful than whole production run of Bugatties - just where exactly would you want to drive at 250 mph? 150 mph is ought to be enough for everyone!

[hyperD]

Millenium Falcon was infinitely more useful than whole production run of Bugatties - just where exactly would you want to drive at 250 mph? 150 mph is ought to be enough for everyone!

<myth>"640k should be enough for anyone - W.Gates"</myth>

Well, I've been 170mph in the Tuscan in Germany (on the way to Heidelberg if I remember with the roof down, outgunning a white Porsche 911. Could have gone faster but the wife woke up! Curses!)

Well, you could try doing 250mph here:

[Fungus]

The 0-60 time is not really a good measure of a cars performance. Clarkson raves about the Veyron, and he's tried most supercars. But I think you miss the point. There are people who are so rich they can afford anything, and the Veyron is so spectacular that such people must add one to the collection. And Volkswagon made a huge loss on each one. It was done for prestige.

I still don't understand why TVR are not doing well. Apart from the name. Trevor. For goodness sake.

[AtW]

TVRs stand out of other cars - I never driven one but understand and believe they are very fast, however they lack good marketing and their design choice is seriously for those who like the way it looks - I don't so I would never buy one.

Noble with M15 and Lotus Esprit are the kind of design I like, now they are more expensive than your average TVR, but I would rather drive £12k nice looking car (PUG 307) than ugly looking and more expensive new BMW, TVR etc.

[AtW]

Here is one from AutoTrader:



2000 W Reg LOTUS Esprit V8 GT

2 Doors, Manual, Coupe, Petrol, 34,700 miles, Metallic norfolk mustard, MOT-02-2007, 3 Owners. ABS, Alloy wheels, Central locking, Electric mirrors, Electric windows, Foglights, Immobiliser, Power assisted steering, Sports seats, Adjustable seats, Air conditioning, Anti theft system, Colour coding - Body, Full service history, Leather upholstery, Limited slip differential, Locking wheel nuts, Pearlescent paint, Remote locking, Radio/CD Multichanger, Spoiler, Sunroof.Insurance Group:20, TWIN TURBO 0-60 4.8 SEC TRUE SUPER CAR IN STUNNING ORDER PLEASE NO DREAMERS (that means not for you Milan...) £24,999.
Tel: 0121 6666300 or 07920 525000
Distance: 3 miles
Price: £24,999

[Churchill]

I wouldn't buy any of them even if I had the money; they're all just a hole in the ground you pour money in...

Do you want to buy one of my boats? I'll show you how to throw money away! The most economical one we own consumes (devours, surely) 17 gallons of petrol(not diesel) an hour as she travels a mere 55 miles. So, if you ever need a lesson in spending money, give myself or Mrs Churchill a call.

Anyway, if I ever win the lottery I shall treat the money as expendible and the Veyron will be mine!!!!!