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    #21
    Originally posted by mcquiggd
    Thats the rate the cheapie overseas worker charges is 100% lower (presumably meaning half price...?).. the agency has a fixed budget so creams the rest as profit.
    But this would mean that to the client the cost is the same. Still doesn't make sense.
    I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Francko
      But this would mean that to the client the cost is the same. Still doesn't make sense.
      Thats a fixed budget - not a fixed percentage ... they may be given £400 a day, and wil tell prospective candiates its £280 a day.... thats how the c unts make a living off other people talents.....
      Vieze Oude Man

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        #23
        Originally posted by Francko
        No, and I think you have been highly misinformed as I have two indian people in my office working for 70k plus benefits and they are thinking of going back to Bangalore as salary per cost of living they are better off there nowadays (and the visa was always quite easy to get, even in the year 2000 and yet the rates were different at that time). You are probably thinking of an average indian salary, not the ones for highly skilled and educated IT people, which are rather different from the standard ones.
        I tend to agree with Francko.

        There is an interesting article on the Financial Times today that talks about the current skills shortage in India and China. Especially in sectors like IT that require a certain level of numeracy skills. Brief summary below:

        https://registration.ft.com/registra...0779e2340.html

        I do not believe there is still a cost advantage in outsourcing things like software development to India. And if the cost advantage is still there then how long before it gets completely eaten out by the increasing recruitment and labour costs?
        http://www.privacyinternational.org/
        http://www.no2id.net/

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          #24
          Global Outsourcing Guide

          Quite interesting read...

          http://www.cio.com/archive/071506/20...cing_guide.pdf

          I agree with Francko. In Eastern Europe salaries go up by 20-25% each year and you can't find good people for peanuts. Demand is roughly two times the existing supply...

          Victor
          The rest is silence...

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            #25
            Originally posted by Viktor
            Quite interesting read...

            http://www.cio.com/archive/071506/20...cing_guide.pdf

            I agree with Francko. In Eastern Europe salaries go up by 20-25% each year and you can't find good people for peanuts. Demand is roughly two times the existing supply...

            Victor
            Unfortunately houses are going up 50-60% each year in Eastern Europe too. Same house in Kaunas two years ago now it's almost doubled.
            I've seen much of the rest of the world. It is brutal and cruel and dark, Rome is the light.

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              #26
              yep the market is hot at the moment

              the Benes Invoicing Machine mobile telephone is red hot these days

              Milan.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Viktor
                Quite interesting read...

                http://www.cio.com/archive/071506/20...cing_guide.pdf

                I agree with Francko. In Eastern Europe salaries go up by 20-25% each year and you can't find good people for peanuts. Demand is roughly two times the existing supply...

                Victor
                That's too much of a generalisation. It's not true for those I work with in Poland. Sure their salaries are rising but not at that sort of pace. Unfortunatley general cost of living is rising at that sort of pace.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by milanbenes
                  the Benes Invoicing Machine mobile telephone is red hot these days
                  Milan.
                  Don't leave it out in the sun so long mate.
                  I am not qualified to give the above advice!

                  The original point and click interface by
                  Smith and Wesson.

                  Step back, have a think and adjust my own own attitude from time to time

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ASB
                    That's too much of a generalisation. It's not true for those I work with in Poland. Sure their salaries are rising but not at that sort of pace. Unfortunatley general cost of living is rising at that sort of pace.

                    That's why they have all moved here. Saw a documentary where the mayor of some city in Poland was planning on a tour of the UK trying to pursuade people to return there. The airlines have doubled the number of flights from the local airport to the UK.
                    Vieze Oude Man

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by mcquiggd
                      That's why they have all moved here.
                      Rubbish, I was in Warsaw a couple of weeks back and I distinctly remember there being a couple of dozen poles left.

                      The most common language in the local towns here in rural zummerset has changed from Brum into Polish. There a polish drop in centre opened in the local market town too.

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