Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits - Petition

[wobbegong]

let them know there are consequences. at an early age

That's exactly what I keep on telling my kids; there are consequeces to your actions but equally as importantly, to your inactions.

[lukemg]

What can be done is being, there is no way to eradicate this. It flares up every few years, they kick some ass, chuck some money at a few areas, hire more 'yoof workers' and on we go. Gov can't allow this to continue so it will be stopped very quickly.
In the old days, there was a constant need for thousands of low-level grunts to man factories, mines etc and a war every so often to trim the numbers (in addition to those culled due to living conditions etc).
Also exists as a nice trawling exercise as the 1000 or so scrotes will all be DNA'd, added to the database for the future and compared to outstanding crimes. I used to work at a forensics place, I said surely the numbers of additions to the database will start to ease off as we get all the potentials on there. No was the reply, next generation of scum is constantly being added.
Earn enough cash to live somewhere nice, pay for insurance and watch it all on telly...

[BA to the Stars]

97,000 have signed up to the petition. Only 3,000 more signatures required in order for it to be put forward to be debated.

[DimPrawn]

97,000 have signed up to the petition. Only 3,000 more signatures required in order for it to be put forward to be debated.

Sorry, I like to stay away from lists of names in the possession of govt bodies.

[shaunbhoy]

97,000 have signed up to the petition. Only 3,000 more signatures required in order for it to be put forward to be debated.

That will be a dawdle if they ever get the fooking site working properly!!!

[AtW]

It's applying a new punishment to a crime that has already been comitted.

Criminals should not be whining about punishments, especially when the talk is about "benefits" which are entirely optional, don't like it go earn money without committing crimes.

[DodgyAgent]

Criminals should not be whining about punishments, especially when the talk is about "benefits" which are entirely optional, don't like it go earn money without committing crimes.

I am afraid that these kids are beyond simply being made to work. They need boot camps and re educating.

[PAH]

How about starting up a colony in some unwanted piece of desert and sending the drunks, the junkies and the feckless to rot?

It worked for Australia. They owe 'us' everything. Except those poisonous frogs, they can keep those.

If you insist on seriousness on CUK General (always a swim against the tide) then there will be nothing of major consequence that comes from this. Back to normal by weekend or whenever X Factor start up again. Scrotes currently being processed will get a slapped wrist unless there is hard evidence they've commited a crime such as murder, attempted murder or arson. Token gestures to fix the problem will follow. No majorly effective solutions will be implemented as it's impossible to be radical by commitee (MPs).

So whatever great ideas we, the public, come up with they will only get ignored.

[Paddy]

I would start with the little things. Like its ok to smack your own kids. Give teachers the authorty they had 30 -40 years ago.


cost free, but all about building respect (out of fear - yes)
let them know there are consequences. at an early age

Unfortunately I have seen too many parents abuse kinds by smacking them for the slightest reason or even smacking two year olds when they don’t even understand why they have been smacked.

When I was school caning was given for such things arriving late for lessons. Purvey teachers enjoyed lifting the skirts of young girls and giving them the slipper. The really bad boys were caned but it had no effect on them and they went on the be bad men.

My father went to a Catholic school and was flogged by nuns for not learning his prayers. The nuns though they were doing him a favour by making him go to heaven.

[AtW]

My father went to a Catholic school and was flogged by nuns for not learning his prayers. The nuns though they were doing him a favour by making him go to heaven.

Well, to be fair if you go to Catholic school and don't learn the prayers then you can't expect to get a medal for it.

Say in our Soviet school we did not have flogging but I was put in the corner as means of punishment a few times