EDL Whiteshirts on the streets of London

[Incognito]

The EDL want their ideology picked up by the populace and swept to power on the popular vote. They'll use anything to further that end.

Playing Devil's advocate here, but how does that differ from Sharia law?

[Mich the Tester]

If the EDL's the solution I think I'd prefer the problem.

[Old Greg]

Testicular nonsense in itself.

The EDL want their ideology picked up by the populace and swept to power on the popular vote. They'll use anything to further that end.

I disagree. They can never win a popular vote. They want to grow a mass movement, and then engineer or exploit a crisis to launch a putsch, as in Beer Hall Putsch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

[Old Greg]

Playing Devil's advocate here, but how does that differ from Sharia law?

They're both tulipe in different ways, but that's not the choice that confronts us.

[Incognito]

You certainly don't ignore them. Here's what a Mr A. Hitler of Berlin said:

"Only one thing could have broken our movement – if our adversaries had understood its principle, and from the first day had smashed, with the most extreme brutality, the nucleus of our new movement"

Now, I'm not a fan of Hitler so am not into the extreme brutality, but they must certainly be opposed.

So how do you oppose them then, by smashing them or by engaging with them? You're a ******* hypocrite OG, you were sneering at Minestrone for wanting to circumvent the rule of law and ostracise the looters, yet here's you preaching the same message.

[Mich the Tester]

Your friendly local EDL, here to defend YOUR neighbourhood.

[Incognito]

They're both tulipe in different ways, but that's not the choice that confronts us.

I disagree, if Sharia is important to the community then they should be allowed to integrate that into the UK. To a point. UK law should always take precedent and Sharia should not be allowed to creep out to interfere with the wider public. In contrast if someone wants to be a full fledged signed up member of the BNP then let them. If they want to go to festivals and listen to skinhead rants then let them. To a point. Their extremism shouldn't be allowed to interfere with the general public.

[NotAllThere]

Playing Devil's advocate here, but how does that differ from Sharia law?

What does that have to do with anything.

I disagree. They can never win a popular vote. They want to grow a mass movement, and then engineer or exploit a crisis to launch a putsch, as in Beer Hall Putsch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

OK, stand corrected.

[PAH]

I believe the debate is centering around an EDL arranged gathering to protect their local area, Eltham.

Hopefully they're inviting anyone in the community to join them so it doesn't become a race issue.

I see the news are hailing the broom squad organised via Twitter and Facebook to help clean up the mess. Obviously the main attraction to the media is that it's the whole community coming together, not just one section of it.

The easiest way of stopping the trouble would be if the community uprising included some of the relatives of those causing the trouble, allowing them to sort out their own family before the police do it for them.

[Incognito]

Your friendly local EDL, here to defend YOUR neighbourhood.

Do you know who this chap is Mich?