Cameron's response

[Mich the Tester]

Nothing. We have to uphold political sensitivity and correctness. Words will be enough. Police are up to the job as we saw last night, they just need a few more numbers.


Maybe if it continues then they'll enforce more extreme measures.* As always it's too little too late.

* a cerfew, arrest on sight, batton to head if resist arrest. If they're on the streets they're fair game. Anyone saying this measure is too hard is a limp-wristed f****r like Cameron. Maybe you'll change your mind when your home is in flames.

He can't stand there and speak in a way that aggravates people and causes more aggression. Agreed that action is needed, but tough action doesn't need tactless words. Remember the African saying; 'speak softly and carry a big stick'.

[Doggy Styles]

* a cerfew, arrest on sight, batton to head if resist arrest. If they're on the streets they're fair game. Anyone saying this measure is too hard is a limp-wristed f****r like Cameron. Maybe you'll change your mind when your home is in flames.

I'm all for harder measures, but be careful what you wish for. It soon becomes non-discriminate.

[PAH]

Remember the African saying; 'speak softly and carry a big stick'.

Problem with that is unless they have overwhelming force so no need to keep remobilising as the riots break out (the main problem last night was the police were too busy chasing their tail, getting outmanoeuvred and spread too thinly) the soft words will just encourage more people to join in if they think it will be more of the same.

A big gamble.

If they had the army on the streets this afternoon, not necessarily armed, just their presence would be intimidating enough, the police could concentrate on raiding the perps from the evidence gained so far.

[KentPhilip]

Remember the African saying; 'speak softly and carry a big stick'.

We can't, the troops are all in Afghanistan.

[Mich the Tester]

We can't, the troops are all in Afghanistan.

Yep. Thanks Tony.

[PAH]

I'm all for harder measures, but be careful what you wish for. It soon becomes non-discriminate.

It's easy to discriminate if you have a curfew. Anyone on the streets is acting illegally. Problem last night was people hanging around so the police didn't know who was a perp or innocent bystander, which is where innocent people get caught in it.

Stay off the streets and let the police clear the scum away.

[Mich the Tester]

It's easy to discriminate if you have a curfew. Anyone on the streets is acting illegally.

Nursey doing a home visit? People bringing some food to granny because she didn't dare go out and do the shopping? Tourists who don't understand what they're being told or have just arrived and haven't heard the news?

Do you want to shoot them?

[PAH]

I think the streets will be empty tonight anyway. Only a moron hasn't heard the news and will think it a good idea to wander around for a look.


Police numbers to be increased from 6000 last night to 16000 tonight. Enough?

Maybe they should deputise community members as special constables to help protect areas when there's obviously not enough full time manpower available. A sort of TA for the police.

[russell]

It's easy to discriminate if you have a curfew. Anyone on the streets is acting illegally. Problem last night was people hanging around so the police didn't know who was a perp or innocent bystander, which is where innocent people get caught in it.

Stay off the streets and let the police clear the scum away.

Maybe they should look at the causes rather than just using brute force, it may dampen it down for a while but it will continue to erupt.

[russell]

Nursey doing a home visit? People bringing some food to granny because she didn't dare go out and do the shopping? Tourists who don't understand what they're being told or have just arrived and haven't heard the news?

Do you want to shoot them?

I think PAH is thinking more along the lines of setting up camps in the country to gather these people for his final solution.